Creationists Gather...Dinosaurs Subject of Discussion

The Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | Saturday, July 20, 2002 | Cindy Schroeder

[yankeedame]

Saturday, July 20, 2002

Creationists gather today:Dinosaurs subject of discussion

By Cindy Schroeder, cschroeder@enquirer.com

The Cincinnati Enquirer

UNION — As children create models of dinosaurs, their parents can search for Biblical references to the giant creatures at a weekend conference hosted by a pro-Creationist ministry that vows to “defend scripture from the very first verse.”

The site of the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum in Boone County is being graded. (Patrick Reddy photo) | ZOOM | Organizers of the program running today and Sunday at Big Bone Baptist Church in Union say the Answers in Genesis family conference is expected to draw between 500 and 600 people within a day's drive of the Tristate. They say it is part of an ongoing series of family conferences that the 8-year-old nonprofit ministry — now building a 50,000-square-foot museum in Hebron — has offered throughout the country to “give (believers) arguments to help debunk evolution.”

Answers in Genesis followers believe the Earth's creatures were created by God and were not the result of an evolutionary process as espoused by scientists such as Charles Darwin.

“Our purpose is to equip Christians to be able to defend Christianity against the evolutionary ideas (or) secular ideas that challenge the Bible,” said Ken Ham, executive director of Answers in Genesis and the conference's keynote speaker. He said organizers will present what they believe is the factual account of the history of the world as presented in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.

Like those who promote Intelligent Design, Answers in Genesis followers believe that all life was the result of a creator. However, they carry that theory further, in that they maintain the creator “is the God of the Bible and you can trust the God of the Bible,” Mr. Ham said.

With the help of the writings of “Scriptural Geologists,” Terry Mortenson, a full-time lecturer with Answers in Genesis who has degrees in theology and geology, will attempt to show that dinosaurs walked the Earth with man.

Arnold Miller, a professor of geology at the University of Cincinnati, challenged participants to “go out and examine the evidence themselves,” rather than allow others to interpret the evidence for them.

“I'm all for Answers in Genesis having every opportunity to say what they want,” Mr. Miller said. “But I would challenge anyone who goes to this conference to demand direct positive evidence that the creation of life took place over six days in 4004 B.C. or whatever they say. People should ask, "What's the evidence? Let's hear it.'

“It's one thing to provide misleading characterizations in scientific debates. It's another to say that the answers (to issues such as how life began) really are in Genesis.”

[cinFLA]

How did he get the kangaroos from Australia, the jaguars from South America, and the grizzlies from North America?

Obviously another one of god's miracles.

[jennyp]

Was #118 my reference guide to Medved's spam? (I thought I had hit Post, but sometimes I screw up...)

[medved]

Note that all definitions of 'spam' on the internet involve some notion of a profit motive and that there is none here. This is a flagrant attempt at censorship to prevent newcomers from reading some of these materials.

Note also that JennyP's little crybaby act does not mention the lists of links which PatrickHenry and others of her own clique post on these threads or their regular practice of running the threads to 2500 posts with relatively senseless banter amongst themselves.

Note also that the two files which the crybaby act concerns together add up to about 20K bytes of text, i.e. the size of one fairly small jpg image so that the amount of bandwidth being taken up is barely worth talking about.

[f.Christian]

spam 'whiner' alert!

[PatrickHenry]

Patrick, I am crushed, you didn't ping me!! Please add me to your ping list.

You're now on the list (which is up to revision 5).

[PatrickHenry]

I never knew about that thread. Thanks.

[knarf]

"Why couldn’t He ... "

Yea, hath God said?
It's the original invitation to argument.

Attempting to explain God's thoughts and ways is to accept Satan's open door invitation into his anti-God university, tuition free.

The answer is, Yes ... God did say.

That's all.

The rest is a religion, just like the evolutionists claim that creationists are religious and thereby whacko, but evolutionists are scientists and therefore sane.

The truth is, they are both based on faith.

I believe there is more physical evidence for creation than there is for evolution.

The evolutionist believes there is more physical evidence for evolution than for creation.

Both congregations meet regularly to have their faith fortified.

Yea, hath God said?

Yep ... He did, and, I believe ... still does.

To take this further is to attempt to determine where both of our minds came from ... the mud or God.

I prefer to believe I am a created being, not the offspring of an accident, and a mutant accident at that.

[medved]

whiner alert

Hypocrite alert would be more like it.

[Gumlegs]

please shorten your posts a little bit. that's taking up too much bandwidth and makes downloading a pain. thanks.

Why not apply the "Hundredth Posting" theory? After a post identical to a previous post has appeared one hundred times, it's automatically deleted.

[Scully]

One time long ago the "church" tried to keep the printing press out of the hands of the laymen so that they could continue to control the thoughts of these people.

Same goal, just a different century with different tactics.

[Scully]

LOL :)

[medved]

Why I ignore the crybaby acts:

You have been accused of spamming. I gotta say, though, that if you hadn't, I would never have been made aware of this stuff. This is a seriously important subject and I apreciate you bringing the sites to my attention!

282 posted on 7/11/02 11:36 AM Eastern by RobRoy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/713966/posts?page=283

[PatrickHenry]

Galileo himself was an arrogant, stubborn and proud SOB. He never shared his discoveries with his scientific contemporaries, who in turn got p!ssed off at him. The REAL reason Galileo was perseceuted was that he disobeyed a papal decree. In fact, many of the judges in the case were reluctant to press forward with it.

I could write more, but there are too many different aspects of the case. For more info, look up the article called "The Galileo Affair" by Thomas Schirrmacher, found in Creation Technical Journal, Vol. 14 No. 1.

Galileo published an entire book presenting his evidence for the solar system. This seems to contradict your claim that he wouldn't share his discoveries. Indeed, it was the publication of that book which triggered the Inquisition's actions against Galileo. The pretext for the proceeding was, in effect, publishing without permission, but the documents to prove that charge have never surfaced. The actual charges, and the plea that they extracted from Galileo (said to be under threat of torture) was all about his "heresy" in teaching about the solar system: Heresy charges against Galileo and Galileo's confession.

After confessing heresy, Galileo's book was banned (who's refusing to share information here?), and Galileo was placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.

You might read this (as I have done): The Galileo Affair, by Maurice A. Finocchiaro, University of California Press, 1989. It's probably a more scholarly treatment of the subject than an article in a creationist journal.

[Doctor Stochastic]

But your argument also equally well supports the theory that the Universe was created Last Thursday. How do you then distinguish your beliefs from Last Thursdayism?

[balrog666]

Spam-skipping placemarker.

[PatrickHenry]

I'll point out that this [Big Bone Baptist Church] is located close to Big Bone Lick state park ...

Thanks for the clarification. I had been wrongly assuming it was located HERE.