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EVIDENCE GROWS OF DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO VATICAN IN MAJOR AMERICAN SEMINARIES
Spirit Daily ^ | July 2, 2002

Posted on 07/02/2002 8:59:38 AM PDT by NYer

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To: allend
I haven't followed them closely, are there problems?
21 posted on 07/02/2002 11:01:50 AM PDT by narses
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To: nickcarraway
"If you're not going to be Catholic, why be Catholic?"

Because they're proud and arrogant and want to reshape the Church in their own image. And we all know where pride and arrogance come from...from the one who is also responsible for that whiff of sulphur that seems to permeate the air at these seminaries.


23 posted on 07/02/2002 11:44:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: allend
That sounds scary. Has there been any action wrt problems vis-a-vis Rome?
24 posted on 07/02/2002 1:06:28 PM PDT by narses
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To: allend
I'd be interested in reading moer about them. I have heard generally good things, but very little and not recently. Your story sounds scary.
26 posted on 07/02/2002 1:42:51 PM PDT by narses
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To: allend
Isn't JPII a strong supporter of the Legionaries?

I've read a great deal of pro and con about the Legionaries, and something bothers me tremendously about them - the allegations of sexual abuse. Do you think there is any credence to those allegations or is the group just being persecuted by the non-orthodox (can't think of a better word to use) members of the Catholic hierarchy?

I don't know what to believe anymore.

27 posted on 07/02/2002 1:59:18 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
I've read reviews of "Windswept House" that call it "faction". Somewhat like Dragnet, Martin changed only the names.
29 posted on 07/02/2002 2:06:34 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: allend
Thanks. Very interesting. I suspect there may be more there than meets the eye.
31 posted on 07/02/2002 2:12:30 PM PDT by narses
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To: american colleen
I don't know what to believe anymore.

Sure you do. You believe the Creed, the Bible, the Catechism. You believe the Real Presence. You believe Christ built a Church and gave it the Keys of the Kingdom.

Its not that we don't know what to believe, its that we don't know who to trust.

I trust my wife, and mom and dad. I trust my spiritual director, an old faithful very holy Passionist priest. I trust a handful of others. Only a handful.

I trust the Pope when he speaks as Peter. I don't always trust his or anyone else's prudential judgement. The Holy Spirit doesn't guarantee that anyone will be Divinely protected from making boneheaded imprudent decisions. Not even the Pope.

Keep believing what you know to be Truth.

Keep Trusting He Who is worthy of Trust.

Pray for the rest, do your best, don't worry, then try to be at peace.

32 posted on 07/02/2002 2:31:22 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: NYer
This sounds like the New Age , Open Theology ,feel good gospel is finding itself into Catholic Seminaries..

You guys better act quickly..or before you know it Robert Schuler will be at your local parish

I can not believe that Satan is just pulling all the stops..All churches are fighting the same battles..

33 posted on 07/02/2002 3:03:07 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Polycarp
Very well said, thank you.
34 posted on 07/02/2002 3:03:50 PM PDT by narses
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To: NYer
The good news is that the good guys win in the end....
35 posted on 07/02/2002 4:17:10 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: Polycarp
Polycarp,

Thank you very much for your post to me - #32.

You are right. I guess I get a bit overwhelmed at times.
38 posted on 07/02/2002 10:05:28 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Ping Three.
40 posted on 06/29/2003 4:44:41 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
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