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To: fortheDeclaration

No, man believes for his salvation, just as the Lord commanded him to do (1Jn.3:23, Jn.3:16) Grace and faith are not antithetical but complementary. If you are going to prove your 'thesis' that is what you would have to prove. That if man uses his faith, it is not grace.

Therefore, according to your contention, BY THE VIRTUE OF a MAN's OWN FAITH a "possible salvation" becomes an actual salvation. Man is not saved by grace, but BY THE VIRTUE OF HIS OWN FAITH. Do you agree then that your belief is that faith is the cause of salvation and not grace?

34 posted on 06/28/2002 2:37:15 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody; xzins; winstonchurchill; Revelation 911
No, man believes for his salvation, just as the Lord commanded him to do (1Jn.3:23, Jn.3:16) Grace and faith are not antithetical but complementary. If you are going to prove your 'thesis' that is what you would have to prove. That if man uses his faith, it is not grace.

Therefore, according to your contention, BY THE VIRTUE OF a MAN's OWN FAITH a "possible salvation" becomes an actual salvation. Man is not saved by grace, but BY THE VIRTUE OF HIS OWN FAITH. Do you agree then that your belief is that faith is the cause of salvation and not grace?

See what I mean about talking with you Woody, you are a real nut. Now, I told you have to prove that 'faith' is not part of grace. You come back with man is not saved by grace, by the virture of his own faith .

Man is saved by grace, through faith.

Since Faith is not a work, it is totally consistent with the grace process. It is the mere acceptance of the free gift (which is the grace) that God has provided.

Now, Woody, take your silly logical contructs somewhere else. It is clear that you have no intention of honestly dealing with what we have to say.

37 posted on 06/28/2002 2:46:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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