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To: mikesmad
I have to admit that I've moved away from the dispensationalist eschatological view somewhat in the course of my studies, but that has not changed my view on the importance of supporting Israel. I agree that it's foolish to think that allowing Israel, a sovereign democratic nation, to be destroyed would not be the end of Arab violence. Israel holds tremendous strategic importance to the United States, especially in light of recent events.
11 posted on 06/05/2002 1:09:08 PM PDT by Frumanchu
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To: Frumanchu
I have to admit that I've moved away from the dispensationalist eschatological view somewhat in the course of my studies ...

I did a survey on an "end times" discussion board last month, to determine the direction of change. A few die-hard dispensationalists said they'd not changed their eschatological expectations. A larger number of godly and scholarly folks spoke of having left dispensensationalism behind.

There were zero respondents who had moved from biblical postmillenialism to dispensensationalism.

Among literate and thinking Christians, the trend is clear. Among those who substitute emotion, shouting, and incantations for thought, their hysteria is evidence of the perceived weakness of their position.

16 posted on 06/05/2002 1:48:04 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: Frumanchu
You're sure welcome to support Israel for most any sane, constructive reason. And, I suspect, blessing Israel for any reason will still carry a blessing attached to it.
40 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:26 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Frumanchu
I, too, have begun to move away from dispensationalism as a method of Biblical interpretation. It is very hard though, because in my brief Christian life it is all I have been taught, though not under that term.

I too remain a strong proponent of Israel.

I have a comment, and please feel free to critique. Was not the covenant with Israel that God would scatter tham when they are disobedient, but bring them back together if they repent and renew the covenant?

So are dispensationalists claiming that ethnic Israel repented of their sins in 1948 when they were made a physical, political nation by the UN? This is impossible, because the basis of repentance is faith in Christ, and the Jewish nation has as yet offerend no such repentance as a whole.

So how could the establishment of Israel be a prophetic event? Perhaps a someone who holds to dispensationalism could answer.

59 posted on 06/05/2002 8:05:14 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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