Honestly, you cannot have a serious discussion regarding the crisis in the church when fundies invade a thread and begin to bash all things catholic. You've been here long enough to realize that you can neither reason with them or regain control and get a thread back on topic once that "the Catholic Church is an evil, satanic cult" crap starts.
I don't think it's worth leaving FR over.
Jim Rob knows full well that it is the Religion Forum ghetto where the fundies hang out, circling for fresh meat like so many wolves in sheeps clothing.
The place the "other side" needs to be heard is among the general readership.
The ONLY thing that is allowed to remain any more on the News Forum are the most secular critical reports, that present all things Catholic in a negative light.
That is the only thing these so-called conservatives here, who do not frequest the Religion Forumghetto, are permitted to see.
Thus we all are simply wasting our time preaching to the choir here in the Religion Forumghetto.
The way this patronizing censorship is going, there is no equal time to defend the Church. And thus a very real, even if unintentional, anti-Catholic bias is being cemented right into the very structure of this new FR Format.
And that is why Catholic FReepers are leaving.