[xzins]

And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

The Bible teaches that this refers to those who God foreknew as believers. The Bible is consistent with this throughout the New Testament. It is a difficult distinction that many miss, so I must ask you....do you understand my point?

I'm not asking if you believe as I do. I'm asking if you understand the manner in which I look at the Bible's teaching. We are joint heirs with each other, and I have no intention of attacking you. This is an honest question.

[editor-surveyor]

"The Bible teaches that this refers to those who God foreknew as believers. The Bible is consistent with this throughout the New Testament. It is a difficult distinction that many miss, so I must ask you....do you understand my point?"

xzins, I don't think that you understand your 'point.'

That verse makes it plain that there are some who were simply NOT ordained to be saved; do you understand that? - They weren't going to be saved no matter what. - Your point, which appears to be correct, makes you a Calvinist, have you figured that out yet?
Now go back and read P-Marlowe's double-talk in post #52 and see how his ideas differ from yours, and mine.

[RnMomof7]

The Bible teaches that this refers to those who God foreknew as believers. The Bible is consistent with this throughout the New Testament. It is a difficult distinction that many miss, so I must ask you....do you understand my point?

Can you see we think that is a mis reading. That the redaing is in fact very clear..