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To: RnMomof7
Marlowe what is the practical difference in the two systems?

Good question. Both systems stress the importance of preaching the Gospel. That should be sufficient. Should, but never is.

Both "systems" seek to bring people to salvation. However one system teaches that Jesus was an elitist who cared only for a few select and died only for a few select and the other system teaches that Jesus cares for every single soul and wants every single soul to be saved and wants no soul to perish.

One system teaches that God loves the "whole world" and the other teaches that God loves ONLY the "elect."

One system points at the other and cries that they have stripped God of his "soverignty." The other system points the finger at the other and cries that they have stripped God of all of his "compassion."

Both "systems" are man made creations which attempt to put God in a box. Both belief systems are wholly unnecessary to anyone's salvation as it matters not one whit "why" we come to Jesus, what matters is "whether" we come to Jesus. Too much emphasis is put on the "how." It is amazing, but one side will challenge the salvation of another simply on the basis that they don't subscribe to the other's "God in a box" theory on "how" they became a believer:
"I surrendered to Jesus"
"No you didn't because 'surrender' is a work and that means your salvation is of works and not of Grace"

What a bunch of baloney! God will separate the wheat from the chaff. It's not our job.

42 posted on 04/17/2002 8:37:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Both "systems" are man made creations which attempt to put God in a box. Both belief systems are wholly unnecessary to anyone's salvation as it matters not one whit "why" we come to Jesus, what matters is "whether" we come to Jesus. Too much emphasis is put on the "how." It is amazing, but one side will challenge the salvation of another simply on the basis that they don't subscribe to the other's "God in a box" theory on "how" they became a believer: "I surrendered to Jesus" "No you didn't because 'surrender' is a work and that means your salvation is of works and not of Grace"

I guess I did not word my question correctly ( and as rush says words mean things:>)

What I meant was ,what difference would the doctrine make in our lives if eithor of us were wrong? On a practical ,real life situation> How would it affect your life IF the Calvinists were correct? How would things "be different" for either of us in the way we live our lives and faith out if the other was correct?

67 posted on 04/18/2002 8:14:49 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: P-Marlowe
Both "systems" are man made creations which attempt to put God in a box. Both belief systems are wholly unnecessary to anyone's salvation as it matters not one whit "why" we come to Jesus, what matters is "whether" we come to Jesus

YES ! YES YES _ WE HAVE A WINNER -

79 posted on 04/18/2002 9:53:01 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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