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I think my interest was piqued on this recently when some Catholic Church bishops came out with a draft saying the "Old Covenant" is still in effect,which seemed worth thinking about. but that led me to the question of "OK,but with who?"Any thoughts or information would be appreciated. Thanks.

The "Old Covenant" draft is nothing new.

Catholic Catechism
121 The Old Testament is an indispensable part of Sacred Scripture. Its books are divinely inspired and retain a permanent value, for the Old Covenant has never been revoked.

When the Old Testament was written there were no Christians.

IOW, I dunno, but I imagine the "New Covenant" applys to Christians only and the "Old Covenant" applys to all of us in some way.

Yes,I believe that the Old Covenant has never been revoked and that it applies to all of us,but the piece I am chewing on is just who were the "Jews",with whom God extablished the Old Covenant?

I thought it was established with the Israelites and that the Southern Kingdom was home to two tribes,Judah's and Benjamin's, and somewhere in there I think there were some Levites.I also thought Jesus came to bring the kingdom to the tribes of Israel that were lost.This all made sense until I started reading the posts on the Neverending thread and it occurred to me that at the time of Christ's crucifixion there were more people involved than Romans and Jews,(and who those "Jews" were are.a mystery to me)and that's where my trouble started.Truthfully,my trouble started long before that on unrelated matters.

Now it seems to me,and I could very well be way off base,that all the things we read about,hear and/or see, cannot be understood if we don't know what or who we are talking about.

Two people I know well are Jewish,one a "cultural" Jew,is very pro-Israel and was delightd the President went to Iraq for whatever reason. The other a more religious Jew has been out with the war protesters several times. I myself have developed a wonderful postiion,I hate any war but if we are in trouble now it is all Clinton's fault and I will not discuss Bush or the war until they admit his culpability.It helps in discussions with them and some "social/justice", democrat catholics that I was always trying to get a group of them to march in protest with me against our entry into Kosovo.Talk about a cult of one. Any thoughts to add to,or diminish my confusion?