Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
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What do you think the word repent means here? Until just recently when I would come across the word repent in scripture, I always thought it meant to turn away from sin, to be sorry for my sins. I recently came to understand that that is not always the case. Repent can mean to turn away from unbelief in Jesus Christ. Such as when Peter says in Acts to repent and be baptized. I believe this is where the confusion comes from about baptism, that baptism washes away sin. But actually Peter is saying turn away from unbelief in Jesus, and be baptized to show your belief. Has nothing to do with sin in these verses.
I may be wrong about how others read this word if so I apologize.
Becky
Perhaps you've missed the cleverly disguised point of all this - to get it right. It isn't about bashing or finger pointing. It's about dealing forthrightly about the facts and pointing out the correct path. If you've mistaken this for the Argument clinic or Pandora's Pretty Religion bashing parlor, I assure you, you've the wrong web address. Truth may be painful at times, that does not mean that telling the truth is bashing. Some just haven't heard the truth very often - if at all and thus cannot percieve the difference any more than judging lime from lemon based only upon how they feel in the hand. I don't think you need my assurance based on the gift I have that if I wanted to "bash" the RCC I could do it with a flourish not seen since The Black Adder went forth. So before you get into full scale self martyrdome, please do desist from the silliness and rejoin the exchange.
Imagine that - writing from bed feeling like the bottom side of a garbage truck and I still have a sense of humor.
Read it - you do have a bible I presume. Ecclesiastes 9 requires no "personal" interpretation or any other kind. It's quite clear in it's scope and meaning. It just happens that Catholic philosophy has people believing things contrary to scripture so any excuse that can be found must be employed to cop out on it. I've seen plenty of that here, so read it and if you have questions, ask.
For this cause do we repeatedly celebrate those glorious titles of her ministry as Mediatrix...
Yes, we fly to thee, we miserable children of Eve, O holy Mother of God. To thee we lift our prayers, for thou art the Mediatrix, powerful at once and pitiful, of our salvation. Oh, by the sweetness of the joys that came to thee from thy Son Jesus, by thy participation in His ineffable sorrows, by the splendours of His glory shining in thee, we instantly beseech thee, listen, be pitiful, hear us, unworthy though we be! ...
Mary not only preserved and meditated on the events of Bethlehem and the facts which took place in Jerusalem in the Temple of the Lord, but sharing as she did the thoughts and the secret wishes of Christ she may be said to have lived the very life of her Son...
Hence it follows, as We have already pointed out, that the Virgin is more powerful than all others as a means for uniting mankind with Christ. Hence too since, according to Christ Himself, "Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee the only truly God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent" (John xvii., 3), and since it is through Mary that we attain to the knowledge of Christ, through Mary also we most easily obtain that life of which Christ is the source and origin...
Wow he even defiled John 17 but that's not surprising since the Pope has taken the name "Holy Father" for himself.
Yep. Marcion rears his ugly head again.
When you talk about dancers, are you talking about girls swinging around poles, ballet, 2 step or what? My husband and I dance occasionally (but only with each other)and I like to twirl the babies around the room. I don't see anything wrong with that.
When you talk about gold diggers are you talking about girls that expect you to pay for a date or ones that want to hold your wallet?
You might want to just start asking God to send you a wife and let him set the conditions. I have to warn you though, that I think He has a sense of humor:')
I don't recall seeing anything remotely resembling that phrase in any bible. Was it in the manuscripts?
Mark 6:12-13 "So they went out and preached that men should repent. And they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many that were sick and healed them."
Okay, I give up. What is it you think we fundamentalists don't take literally in those verses?
Importance of the Pope-
See my "I don't recall seeing..." above.
Matthew 16:18-19 "And I tell you, you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound to heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Quester did a fine job answering this one. But, again, what are you suggesting we fundies take figuratively, as opposed to literally? Are you suggesting He was literally talking to a rock? ;O)
It's also interesting to note the play on words evident in the original Greek (sorry, not Latin) language. Peter is a small stone, but JESUS is the Rock. A few thousand posts back -- or, it might have been in a different thread altogether -- someone posted in large letters, "DID SOMEONE SAY 'ROCK'?!" followed by a rather long list of Scriptural evidence supporting the well-known biblical typology of Jesus as the Rock. Surely you know Jesus is the Rock.
If He was saying He was going to build His church upon Peter, it's rather odd that only 5 verses later He calls him Satan. :-)
The irony is so thick, I'll just let your statement speak for itself. ;o)
I don't think my heart was in it, do yall? Oh well, I'll keep working on it but It was much easier, ignoring these guys until yall had to bring out the scripture:')
Okay, I'm curious. Could you start with two, please?
"The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed"
"How lovely on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news"
No one dies unless the bible says they died. By the way, people didn't go to the bathroom back then either, especially Jesus and Mary.
Lol. Patrick Roy is getting old.
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