Posted on 03/30/2002 5:40:58 PM PST by Lady In Blue
Augustine
He was also a predestinarian.:>)
I will leave you all to ponder just what that means. But first, since you all insist on celebrating Our Lord's Resurrection early, I will wish you all a Happy Easter.
Yes, but even the RCC could see their way around that:
"Thus our Doctors, without detracting in the least from the sovereignty and justice of God, have risen to the highest idea of His goodness: that God so sincerely desires the salvation of all as to give absolutely to all, immediately or mediately, the means necessary for salvation, and always with the desire that man should consent to employ those means. No one falls into hell except by his own fault. Even infidels will be accountable for their infidelity."
Now, obviously Biblical Christians would have mighty disagreements with the RCC over "the means necessary" and Who (vs. what organization) is in control of those "means", but at least in this one respect the RCC finds itself closer to the Gospel of Christ than the construct of the Calvinists (to which the CE quaintly quotes a French protestant as describing "the boldest defiance ever given to reason and conscience").
Strangely, we still read of that 'bold defiance to reason and conscience' each day on FR.
Beautiful! I once heard Pope John Paul 11 express the desire and the hope that Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches would one day "breathe with both(East & West)lungs. Thanks for the best wishes.
He was also a predestinarian.:>)
He also believed salamanders could live in fire and that there were people in the world who had no mouths and derived their nutrition from the air, and many other superstitious notions, many of which he introduced into Christianity, as all the synchrotistic doctrines borrowed from the Manichees, like a sinful nature.
(Mom, I know your busy just reading Calvin. But, read just some of Augustine and you will be surprised by how much of what he believed is pure superstition, and common to many cults today. I'm not judging him, he was only a man, but I find all those who put great faith in his teachings troubling.)
Hank
You meant they can't:>) Hi Hank..still hitting on the Calvinists huh? Did ya have a good Easter?
But some of us celebrate it every day, eh David? 8-)
Nevertheless, the Latin "lung" will breathe a little lighter on May 5.
I take that as a no. The great news is you have a date with God just for that purpose, let me know if you need any help. When He is through, you may be discounting Mr. Augustine.
All the salamanders my kids found under rocks didn't last a half hour in the hot sun, but maybe Augustinian salamanders are different.
I didn't know Augustine was a Calvinist. Well, you learn something new every day.
Actually had a very nice quiet Easter with my family, thank you. How was yours, I trust you enjoyed this very blessed weekend.
Hank
PRAYER TO THE HOLY SPIRIT
Saint Augustine of Hippo
Breathe in me, O Holy Spirit, that my thoughts may all be holy.
Act in me, O Holy Spirit, that my work, too, may be holy.
Draw my heart, O Holy Spirit, that I love but what is holy.
Strengthen me, O Holy Spirit, to defend all that is holy.
Guard me, then, O Holy Spirit, that I always may be holy.
Amen.
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