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To: oldcats
If that is the case, then how come the evidence presented to me is sufficent proof for me, but not you?

Well, it could be the same evidence hasn't been presented to me as to you, or . . .

See, it is an individual matter of preception. It depends on the mind set. Some may be more open minded to the "evidence" than others.

. . . Some may be more gullible. Provide a two or three sentence outline of what you think the evidence is. And remember evidence isn't proof.

1,541 posted on 03/23/2002 8:30:25 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Provide a two or three sentence outline of what you think the evidence is. And remember evidence isn't proof.

Alas! The topic list of the lines of evidence runs to 29 items. There's too much evidence to describe as simplistically as you'd like.

1,542 posted on 03/23/2002 8:35:26 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Tribune7; All
Note also the following from the page I linked:

"... there are many reasons why you might not understand [an explanation of a scientific theory] ... Finally, there is this possibility: after I tell you something, you just can't believe it. You can't accept it. You don't like it. A little screen comes down and you don't listen anymore. I'm going to describe to you how Nature is - and if you don't like it, that's going to get in the way of your understanding it. It's a problem that [scientists] have learned to deal with: They've learned to realize that whether they like a theory or they don't like a theory is not the essential question. Rather, it is whether or not the theory gives predictions that agree with experiment. It is not a question of whether a theory is philosophically delightful, or easy to understand, or perfectly reasonable from the point of view of common sense. [A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd.

I'm going to have fun telling you about this absurdity, because I find it delightful. Please don't turn yourself off because you can't believe Nature is so strange. Just hear me all out, and I hope you'll be as delighted as I am when we're through. "

- Richard P. Feynman (1918-1988),
from the introductory lecture on quantum mechanics reproduced in QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter (Feynman 1985).


1,544 posted on 03/23/2002 8:39:37 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Tribune7
What is this...some kind of homework assignment?
All of the evidence is out there if you take the time to look for it. I doubt if enough of it can be put into one or two lines, and besides, I am of the opinion that no matter how much evidence is presented to you, it will never change your opinion. So why fight the battles that you cannot win? Hard to have a battle of minds when one is closed and locked tight. But in saying that I am in no way saying...you win...I am mearly reiterating my statement that it is up to the indivdual what evidence is valid, and how much is needed to formulate an opinion.
1,545 posted on 03/23/2002 8:41:20 AM PST by oldcats
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