[Elsie]

The end result is that many religions cause more pain and suffering than would have ever existed without those religions.

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Do you have any PROOF of this assertion that will pass Luvit's test?

[Jeff Gordon]

Do you have any PROOF of this assertion that will pass Luvit's test?

What sort of proof are you looking for?

How about the countless people tortured and killed for the sake Christianity (Islam, Judaism, etc)? This goes both ways. There has been harm done by Christians (Moslems, Jews, etc) to others and there has been harm done to Christians (Moslems, Jews, etc) by others. None of those people would have suffered their fate if Christianity (Islam, Judaism, etc) did not exist.

(What is Luvit's test?)