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To: ArGee

I disagree. Everytime you tell me my experience is invalid you put me down.
So what you are saying here is I have to accept your unverifiable evidence and become a Christian just like you. SHEESH!
You experience is invalid for me. It is unacceptable as evidence for me. I cannot reproduce it or falsify it, that's the standard for scientific evidence and what I require.
You establish a standard of proof that has never been acceptable for living things, then demand I meet that standard.
The standard is the scientific method. I can accept nothing less.
Unfortunately, when dealing with living things, you can't use the repeatable and verifiable experiment model. You have to use the statistical model because living things have will and so are subject to factors beyond simple physical laws. Large samples are required to prove anything about living things.
What you are saying here is Biology is invalid. I don't accept that. The scientific method of verification is all I will accept, nothing less.
942 posted on 1/5/02 2:33 PM Pacific by LuvItOrLeaveIt

All throughout this thread, you have been repeating the above. It is obvious that we (the Believers) cannot (or haven't yet) been able to convince you of how we got to where we are, or of the things that have convinced us to get to this place.

You have NOT, however, tried to get any of US to change sides by painting a fictional word picture of how YOU got to where you are. I can appreciate that. You didn't start a thread asking for input.

I guess my question is: CAN you do that? Do you have any evidence, that passes YOUR standard, to show us? Can you tell us of your experience?

The comments highlighted in red in post #977 nicely attribute to the author one of the primary reasons why he is unable by his own will to have a relationship with God.

Each of the red highlighted statements manifest his placing priority of the author's will over God's will. This is fundamentally why a relationship isn't possible, even when God Himself has provided the propitiation for all sin to allow the opportunity for a relationship by man with God when man holds this type of view.

I guess my question is: CAN you do that? Do you have any evidence, that passes YOUR standard, to show us? Can you tell us of your experience?

I will not do that here as that would be rude.

I won't create a thread for that as I really could care less if anybody else is an atheist. Just suffice it to say, "I believe in only one less god than you and over 4000 gods have been alleged to exist at one point or another in human history."

I am not responsible for how you think about life, the universe, and everything. That's up to you. I am not about to proselytize atheism, there's no point. If you question your faith and become an atheist, that's your business, not mine.