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To: ArGee
Then you prefer to go against the Tanak. It clearly states that you have no Savior but G-d. If the Tanak is truly the oracle of G-d, then you can not save yourself.

But I do not believe that Jesus is God (or the Messiah); therefore, Jesus is not my savior. IMO, of course.

Perhaps I phased it wrong when I said "I prefer to go it alone." I prefer to go with God and have Him judge me worthy through my work. If that is not sufficient for Him, then I am content to have made the effort.

701 posted on 01/04/2002 11:25:57 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
But I do not believe that Jesus is God (or the Messiah); therefore, Jesus is not my savior. IMO, of course.
But, Jews DO believe that a messiah IS coming, don't they?

My questions:
What will this messiah be like?
If Jesus didn't (doesn't) fit the bill, what will be the attributes of the future messiah?
Did your ancient prophets describe him?
Just who/what are you waiting FOR?

834 posted on 01/05/2002 4:19:47 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
But I do not believe that Jesus is God (or the Messiah); therefore, Jesus is not my savior. IMO, of course.

But you must admit that G-d is your savior and He alone. It is repeated in the Tanak. Let me know if you need references.

Perhaps I phased it wrong when I said "I prefer to go it alone." I prefer to go with God and have Him judge me worthy through my work. If that is not sufficient for Him, then I am content to have made the effort.

If you are counting on your effort, then you are attempting to save yourself. This is contrary to the Tanak which says your only savior is G-d. You can not save yourself.

We can discuss the issue of Yeshua later, if you want. Right now we are simply discussing the Jewish Bible and the G-d of Abraham.

Shalom.

904 posted on 01/05/2002 12:30:23 PM PST by ArGee
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