Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee
Revelation 221. Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb
2. down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
3. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.
The answer to how the man can be saved.
Matthew 19:20-21 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?" Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
The answer to how the man can go even farther.
Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
A comment on the kinds of things that distract a man from following G-d.
Is anything distracting you?
Shalom.
If all they do is listen to the stories that other people tell them, they might be inclined to see it that way. But if you read it, you see a G-d of patience and love who suffered great indignity with great forbearance so that any might be drawn to him.
What do you think is the message of Hosea and Gomer? Read the book of Hosea if you're not familiar.
Shalom.
If that were true, it would be G-d that you seek. I sense that it is your self that you seek, and to make your own knowledge the master of all. Mind, I'm not suggesting that you not try to learn everything that you can. I'm just suggesting that you recognize that you don't know everything. Just out of curiosity - out of everything there is possible to be known in the universe, what percentage would you say you know?
Faith and knowledge are by definition mutually exclusive.
With a statement like that I'm going to assume you're rather young. If not, you're at least rather naive. Faith is the ultimate knowledge. Whether you know it or not, and you seem philosophically opposed to admit the axioms that are the foundation of your worldview, you have great faith that the universe operates according to fixed laws. Do you know where that idea originated?
Shalom.
With a statement like that, I'm going to assume that you're rather full of yourself.
I have no idea why we are here, and I'm not going to spend my few years here on earth trying to figure out something that I probably wouldn't understand anyway.
So, on the one hand your concept of why we are here is sufficient for you to reject a Biblical notion of G-d. Then, you have no idea why we are here. If you are going to let the question impact your life so thoroughly, don't you think you owe it to yourself to investigate the question a little? Or, if it really isn't worth investigating, don't you think you should not allow it to have such a great impact on your thinking?
What you have done is avoided a discussion of whether your conception, as originally posted, is at all accurate. I will ask again. Have the courage to answer. Why do you think we are here?
Shalom.
As I said... in the context of this discussion, faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. If knowledge is acquired to substantiate a given premise, it is no longer held on faith.
Faith requires an absence of substantiating knowledge.
That's what makes it faith.
Well, I didn't write it for "them." What do you believe?
Shalom.
Yeah, yeah. That's what you and the rest of the self-worshippers say. Yet you and the rest of the self-worshippers bug out when someone tries to provide evidence and make sense.
Shalom.
I would be very interested in knowing what you concieve G-d to be. You don't evidence someone who has spent time studying Him in His Word. I could be wrong of course. When I read His Word I see something unlike anything anyone has ever imagined.
Shalom.
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
You're destroying what has otherwise been a civil and reasonable thread, by injecting a good solid dose of nasty.
Good back to bed... get a little more sleep... relax, and then come back when you're in a better mood.
You're not helping your cause at all.
The old "Thundernet" site was so much fun. "Thundernet" hosted a gross parody of the "Hatewatch" site, in which they feature groups like the ACLU and GLAAD as "promoting hate" against white supremacists. That's where the drivel found on the link above came from.
Second, it was the home of the American Guardian, which is a magaine of the Recontructionist movement of Chirstianity, a movement dedicated to restoring by force the Old Testament laws of Moses in America.
Finally, showing their goodwill, "Thundernet" provided web hosting to a myriad of neo-nazi, gay-bashing, white power and other hate sites.
Argee and his friends have been goose-stepping around from thread to thread, posting the following:
WE'RE HERE. WE'RE INTOLERANT. GET USED TO IT!
Or we'll kick your a$$
Argee is just showing his true colors.
me = love
God has given you His commandments in order that you should follow them and love your fellow man. He has given His son in order that you should believe and love your fellow man. And all we do is find reasons to condemn one another.
Shalom,
--Proud2bRC
Often Christians make God sound like he has this very rigid set of options and standards to go by. They put God in a box and try to limit Him. Nothing could be further from the truth. Many Christians will limit God as far as salvation goes too.
I ask you OWK, what is the harm in asking? Just to be quiet and take a few minutes,with as much sincerity as you have in you, and ask God Himself to make his presence known to you. It's an incredibly simple task with nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Then in post 849 you say the self worshipers do not pay attention the "evidence."
Are you saying that there exists evidence of some substantiating knowledge that should produce faith which requires the absence of substantiating knowledge?
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