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To: ArGee
faith (fayth) n.
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

As I said... in the context of this discussion, faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. If knowledge is acquired to substantiate a given premise, it is no longer held on faith.

Faith requires an absence of substantiating knowledge.

That's what makes it faith.

847 posted on 01/05/2002 5:30:17 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
faith (fayth) n. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

As I said... in the context of this discussion, faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. If knowledge is acquired to substantiate a given premise, it is no longer held on faith.

Faith requires an absence of substantiating knowledge.

Not really. Just because the belief exists regardless of evidence, that does not mean there cannot be evidence, as well. Faith exists independent of proof, but belief can be bolstered by both faith and evidence.

865 posted on 01/05/2002 9:32:34 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: OWK
Faith requires an absence of substantiating knowledge.

I disagree, and for the record I disagree with the definition in the Dictionary, too.

But if it makes you feel any better, I don't have faith that G-d exists. I have more than enough evidence to know that He does.

What I have faith in is that He is a keeper of His promises. That requires faith of the kind you speak, because you can never prove that someone will always keep their promises - even if they always have.

Shalom.

949 posted on 01/05/2002 1:44:35 PM PST by ArGee
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