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Posted on 02/26/2026 3:29:18 PM PST by ebb tide
In a live interview Thursday with longtime Vatican journalist Robert Moynihan, Bishop Athanasius Schneider revealed that he has spoken off the record with several bishops who have said that they do not submit in “mind and will” to the authentic magisterium of Pope Francis. Bishop Schneider added that the bishops he has spoken to “do not dare to say this” publicly but only in private.
“When I ask them personally, off the record, could you accept the switching of your mind on Amoris Laetitia, and the Communion for the divorced and so on, and they say ‘no,’ but publicly they don’t dare to say this,” Schneider told Moynihan.
The revelation is very significant because the Code of Canon Law (833.3) requires bishops to make the 1989 Profession of Faith, wherein they promise to “adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which … the Roman Pontiff (the pope) … enunciate(s) when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act.”
In the interview, Bishop Schneider also enumerates several teachings of Pope Francis to which he himself says he cannot assent.
READ: Open letter to cardinals: Can’t we consider the possibility that Francis and Leo are anti-popes?
“How can I, even myself, submit my intellect and my will to accept what Pope Francis did in his ordinary magisterium – authentic – to allow divorced people to go to Holy Communion?” he asks rhetorically. Bishop Schneider adds: “How I can accept it? How can I accept with the submission of my intellect and my will? … To accept the Fiducia Supplicans document to blessing same-sex couples.”
Beyond those examples, Bishop Schneider also indicates there are some statements of Vatican II to which he also cannot submit. He mentions specifically an example from the Dogmatic Constitution Lumen Gentium at No. 16, which speaks of adoring the same God with the Muslims.
Or even the Vatican II there are some expressions … which would be also difficult – honestly – for many Catholics to accept with submission of intellect and will. For example, Lumen Gentium states that we Catholics together with the Muslims, we adore the one God. ‘Adore’ – I cannot accept this phrase. How can I adore (God) together with the Muslims? Because the act of adoration is substantially different. The Christians, the Catholics always pray in a supernatural level as children of God. … While Muslims adore on a natural level, not the supernatural level – they don’t have the sonship of God through baptism.
Bishop Schneider says that this and other problematic phrases of the Council need to be corrected or at least clarified. And he suggests the same of the teachings of the Pope, even from his “authentic magisterium.”
And that, my friends, hits on a minefield of debate within the Church. Because the idea of submission in mind and will to the Pope is not new. But that, as they say, is another story. Stay tuned to LifeSiteNews and Sign of the Cross Media for all your breaking news on the Church
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Or even the Vatican II there are some expressions … which would be also difficult – honestly – for many Catholics to accept with submission of intellect and will. For example, Lumen Gentium states that we Catholics together with the Muslims, we adore the one God. ‘Adore’ – I cannot accept this phrase. How can I adore (God) together with the Muslims? Because the act of adoration is substantially different. The Christians, the Catholics always pray in a supernatural level as children of God. … While Muslims adore on a natural level, not the supernatural level – they don’t have the sonship of God through baptism.
Ping
A new guy replaced Francis and runs the Family. All the territory.
Good
IMHO this is evidence that Christ minded Catholics and Protestants aren’t as different as we sometimes think. When a leader strays from core beliefs we tell him we won’t comply.
Very true! We are all Christians.
There’s an episode of Hogan’s Heroes where commanders under General Burkholder conspire with Klink to undermine and depose the general. When confronted directly by the general they fold like cheap suits and except for Klink, end up on the Russian Front. Is there a Russian Front for Bishops who buck the Vatican?
I am reminded of an interview with an exorcist and the interviewer asked “What would a demon want from you as an exorcist?” and he said “For me to give ground to him”. IOW to enter into a state of compromise.
The God that Christians worship commands us to love our enemies.
Allah commands his followers to kill their enemies.
Can’t possibly be the same being.
That’s true only if you think the Quran is a reliable source.
Who is going to tell him Francis isn’t Pope anymore?
The Pontiff is top dog in CHRISTIANITY not in Pontiffianity. What do those clerics think Jesus would do in their shoes?.
allah is just another brand name for satan.
Once you recognize that fact, their demonic cult all makes sense.
No need to. Francis' "synodal" church live on and Amoris Laetitia and Fiducia Supplicans are still in effect.
LOL don’t care, sedevacanists are protestants
What happened to abiding by the teachings of the Bible?
Of course you don't. Most modernists do not recognize nor care about the crisis in the synodal church.
They're as stupid as frogs in a pot of water on the stove.
Was St Paul a sedevacantist because he resisted St Peter to his face.
LOL don’t care, sedevacanists are protestants
Modernists have nothing but stupid retorts when they have no legitimate argument.
Mitch is a fine example.
Why does this matter. Francis is no loger. Leo is in charge.
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