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[Catholic Caucus] "Nostalgic" Proposals on Liturgy Not Helpful – Cardinal Spengler
Gloria TV ^ | January 16, 2026 | Gloria TV

Posted on 01/16/2026 5:51:06 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] "Nostalgic" Proposals on Liturgy Not Helpful – Cardinal Spengler

Asked about the Mass in the Roman rite, Cardinal Jaime Spengler of Porto Alegre, Brazil, said that “the river doesn’t flow backwards.” He spoke with VidaNuevaDigital.com on January 16. The cardinal is president of the bishops’ conferences of Brazil and Latin America (CELAM).

His main statement echoes the historically weak ideas promoted by Cardinal Roche at the consistory on January 7-8.

Cardinal Spengler said, “Throughout history, the liturgy has undergone various reforms. The Second Vatican Council represents an enormous effort to recover fundamental elements of Catholic liturgical celebration. Nostalgic proposals do not help to promote what the Council identified as essential for the liturgy.”

Furthermore, Cardinal Spengler offered a pointless definition of the Eucharist: “Liturgy cannot be understood simply as an expression of religious practice; above all, it is a vigorous expression of a lived experience of faith, both personal and communal - an experience of encounter with the person of Jesus Christ.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: frankenbishop; modernists; tlm; vcii

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Spengler is one of Francis' last frankencardinals; elevated to the College in December 2024.

Asked about the Mass in the Roman rite, Cardinal Jaime Spengler of Porto Alegre, Brazil, said that “the river doesn’t flow backwards.”

Maybe not. But the Rhine flows into the Tiber.


The Rhine Flows into the Tiber: A History of Vatican II


1 posted on 01/16/2026 5:51:06 PM PST by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 01/16/2026 5:51:37 PM PST by ebb tide (Francis' sin-nodal "church" is not the Catholic Church./)
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To: ebb tide

Another leftist Kraut...

“Cardinal Jaime Spengler, the Archbishop of Porto Alegre, Brazil, is a progressive-leaning Franciscan prelate who has expressed openness to the idea of ordaining married men as priests and responded positively to Fiducia Supplicans, the 2023 declaration on same sex blessings.
Born of German descent on September 6, 1960, in Gaspar, Santa Catarina, Brazil, Spengler joined the Order of Friars Minor, taking his first vows in 1983 and his solemn vows in 1985. He was ordained priest on November 17, 1990.”
https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/cardinals/cardinal-jaime-spengler-o-f-m/


3 posted on 01/16/2026 6:08:52 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide
Nostalgic proposals

It's not nostalgia, you ignorant creature ... it's theology.

4 posted on 01/16/2026 6:33:02 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

Amazing, so what about all the claptrap we heard that the novus ordo was bringing us back to a “more pure, earlier form of the mass”?- and then used terrible sources to justify their primitivism.

They just cannot understand or refuse to admit that some changes can be good and better demonstrate our relationship with God, while others can be bad and subservient to an Anticatholic ideology.


5 posted on 01/16/2026 7:51:07 PM PST by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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