Posted on 11/23/2025 3:59:50 PM PST by vespa300
The law of God in the sanctuary in heaven is the great original, of which the precepts inscribed upon the tables of stone and recorded by Moses in the Pentateuch were an unerring transcript. Those who arrived at an understanding of this important point were thus led to see the sacred, unchanging character of the divine law. They saw, as never before, the force of the Saviour’s words: “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law.” Matthew 5:18. The law of God, being a revelation of His will, a transcript of His character, must forever endure, “as a faithful witness in heaven.” Not one command has been annulled; not a jot or tittle has been changed. Says the psalmist: “Forever, O Lord, Thy word is settled in heaven.” “All His commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever.” Psalm 119:89; 111:7, 8.
In the very bosom of the Decalogue is the fourth commandment, as it was first proclaimed: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:8-11.
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In Revelation 14, men are called upon to worship the Creator; and the prophecy brings to view a class that, as the result of the threefold message, are keeping the commandments of God. One of these commandments points directly to God as the Creator. The fourth precept declares: “The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: ... for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:10, 11. Concerning the Sabbath, the Lord says, further, that it is “a sign, ... that ye may know that I am the Lord your God.” Ezekiel 20:20. And the reason given is: “For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed.” Exodus 31:17.
“The importance of the Sabbath as the memorial of creation is that it keeps ever present the true reason why worship is due to God”—because He is the Creator, and we are His creatures. “The Sabbath therefore lies at the very foundation of divine worship, for it teaches this great truth in the most impressive manner, and no other institution does this. The true ground of divine worship, not of that on the seventh day merely, but of all worship, is found in the distinction between the Creator and His creatures. This great fact can never become obsolete, and must never be forgotten.”—J. N. Andrews, History of the Sabbath, chapter 27. It was to keep this truth ever before the minds of men, that God instituted the Sabbath in Eden; and so long as the fact that He is our Creator continues to be a reason why we should worship Him, so long the Sabbath will continue as its sign and memorial. Had the Sabbath been universally kept, man’s thoughts and affections would have been led to the Creator as the object of reverence and worship, and there would never have been an idolater, an atheist, or an infidel. The keeping of the Sabbath is a sign of loyalty to the true God, “Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.” It follows that the message which commands men to worship God and keep His commandments will especially call upon them to keep the fourth commandment.
Wow.....heavy bible Scholarship. The Law of God is indeed...”Immutable.” Nobody can change not one jot or tittle. No church, no committee, no council.
In the book of Revelation, a book of prophecy for end times......men are called to worship the creator. And the same language in this warning to call is the same language found in the 4th commandment. Isaiah prophecied that there would be a “repair of the breach” of the Sabbath.
I think Charlie Kirk’s book out in a few weeks about the 7th day Sabbath and how it transformed his life will show thousands if not millions....this end time truth.
What a quote!!
The true ground of divine worship .....of all worship is found in the distinction between CREATOR and CREATURES. The 7th day Sabbath commemorates Creation in Genesis. It does not point forward to the cross...it points back to creation! Because it existed in a perfect world.....for man!
Heavy subject..
“The Sabbath therefore lies at the very foundation of divine worship, for it teaches this great truth in the most impressive manner, and no other institution does this. The true ground of divine worship, not of that on the seventh day merely, but of all worship, is found in the distinction between the Creator and His creatures. This great fact can never become obsolete, and must never be forgotten.”
I am blessed by the quote from JN Andrews.
“The true reason worship is due God is because he is the creator and we are his creatures.”
I have to remember that beautiful yet compelling answer to anyone who asks me why I keep the 7th day Sabbath and worship on the Sabbath day. Because God is the creator and I am the creature.
Pretty simple. Out of the dust of the ground he made me. I did not evolve from some primordial soup.
The problem is that it is impossible to keep the law to perfectly align with God’s standards. You have failed to keep it, if you are keeping the selfishly.
“If brothers reside together, and one of them dies childless, the dead man’s wife shall not marry an outsider. Her husband’s brother must come to her, taking her as his wife in a levirate marriage. The firstborn son whom she bears will then perpetuate the name of the dead brother, so that his name will not be obliterated from Israel” — Deuteronomy 25:5-6.
___The problem is that it is impossible to keep the law to perfectly align with God’s standards. You have failed to keep it, if you are keeping the selfishly.___
So you cheat on your wife?
____“If brothers reside together, and one of them dies childless, the dead man’s wife shall not marry an outsider. Her husband’s brother must come to her, taking her as his wife in a levirate marriage. The firstborn son whom she bears will then perpetuate the name of the dead brother, so that his name will not be obliterated from Israel” — Deuteronomy 25:5-6.___
The 7th day Sabbath predated sin and the fall of man. All of the laws of Moses written in a book were shadows, pointing to the cross.
Someday people here will learn the difference between the Moral law and the ceremonial laws or shadows.
Moral laws existed before sin. Spoke by God, written by God, in stone by God. Mosaic laws.....spoken by Moses, written by Moses, in a book.
It’s amazing how many people on FR do not believe in all 10 commandments. Just amazing. And their spin......bizarre.
You’ve never looked at a pretty a little too long or had sex your wife while a bit upset with her?
We arent talking about keeping the commandment through action or even mindset, but keeping it to a point where there is zero impurity in your action.
___You’ve never looked at a pretty a little too long or had sex your wife while a bit upset with her?___
yeah.....but that doesn’t mean I throw out that commandment. You threw out the whole Sabbath commandment because you can’t keep it perfectly.
Now you are saying.....”oh, I just look but I don’t actually do it”.....LOL......why don’t you have the same approach with the Sabbath commandment. You threw out the baby with the bathwater. Just be honest.
And yet the law is immutable...except when it isn’t.
___And yet the law is immutable...except when it isn’t.___
The definition of sin.....”Transgression of the Law”....FYI.
Sin = the term originates from the Greek word \(hamartia\), which was used by archers to describe an arrow that missed the bullseye.
Hebrew châṭâ’
khaw-taw’
A primitive root; properly to miss
____Sin = the term originates from the Greek word \(hamartia\), which was used by archers to describe an arrow that missed the bullseye.
Hebrew châṭâ’
khaw-taw’
A primitive root; properly to miss___
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
The “man of sin” is called the man of “Lawlessness” too.
I would be careful telling people it’s ok to sin.
2 thessalonians verse 3. KJV then NIV
KJV:
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
NIV:
Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
Satan thinks it’s ok for us to “sin” .....transgress God’s law. In the heart of his law is the 7th day Sabbath.
Amazing ignorance here.
The SDA org doesn’t teach the conversion commanded by Jesus Christ and his apostles. Y’all are trying to enter in another way.
____The SDA org doesn’t teach the conversion commanded by Jesus Christ and his apostles. Y’all are trying to enter in another way.___
How bizarre. Adventists believe faith leads to obedience to God’s law......the 10 commandments while today’s Christians believe....well, who knows what they believe. The 9 commandments and they don’t even keep Sunday anymore.
Weird.
See tagline. Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins: is it from heaven or of men? See also Mark 16:16 and Acts 22:16.
But its lights out. I must rest before making 18 wheels roll again.
____See tagline. Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins: is it from heaven or of men? See also Mark 16:16 and Acts 22:16.___
What is the believers response to this amazing grace and forgiveness? I thought Jesus said if you love, “KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS”...
Sounds like most here seem to think IF we love Jesus, break his commandments..well, the 4th commandment anyways.
Weird.....
John 14:15
15 “If you love Me, [a]keep My commandments.
This is not a Caucasus thread as the article itself critiques another religion - Christianity.
The claims in this chapter about the papacy’s rise and “supremacy” over the Church distort Scripture’s clear teaching on Christ’s authority and the apostolic foundation. Let’s examine key assertions biblically, showing how they contradict the Bible’s portrayal of the Church as Christ’s Body, guided by the Spirit.
1. The Papacy as a “Man of Sin” or Antichrist—Unbiblical Slander
The chapter portrays the papacy as fulfilling Daniel 7:25 (”He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High”) and 2 Thessalonians 2:3–4 (”The man of lawlessness… who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God”). This is a forced misreading—Scripture identifies the “man of lawlessness” as a future figure empowered by Satan (2 Thess 2:9: “The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan”), not a historical institution. The Church is the “temple of the living God” (1 Corinthians 3:16: “Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?”), built on Christ as cornerstone (Ephesians 2:20: “Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone”). Attacking the Church attacks Christ’s Body (Ephesians 1:22–23: “He put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all”).
2. Papal Supremacy as “Foreshadowed” in Pagan Rome—Ignoring Apostolic Unity
The chapter alleges papal supremacy grew from Roman paganism, but Scripture shows the Church’s authority from Christ to the apostles, with Peter as rock (Matthew 16:18–19: “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church… I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven”). Peter speaks for the apostles (Acts 2:14: “Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice”); Paul consults him (Galatians 2:9: “James, Cephas [Peter], and John… gave the right hand of fellowship”). The Church resolves disputes collectively (Acts 15:28: “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us”), not by pagan inheritance but apostolic succession (Acts 1:20–26: Replacing Judas to maintain the Twelve).
3. “Sunday as Mark of Papal Authority”—A Fabrication Against the Lord’s Day
The chapter claims Sunday worship is a papal invention replacing the Sabbath, but Scripture commands gathering on the Lord’s Day (Revelation 1:10: “I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day”), the first day of the week when Jesus rose (John 20:1: “On the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark”). Early Christians met on Sunday for the Eucharist (Acts 20:7: “On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them”). The Sabbath points to rest in Christ (Hebrews 4:9–10: “There remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his”), not mandatory observance (Colossians 2:16–17: “Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ”).
4. Papal “Persecution” as Proof of Antichrist—Twisting the Suffering Church
The chapter lists persecutions by popes as evidence of antichrist nature, but Scripture shows the Church suffers yet endures (Matthew 16:21: “Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed”; Acts 8:1: “A great persecution arose against the church in Jerusalem”). Suffering doesn’t make the Church antichrist—it proves her fidelity (John 15:20: “If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you”). The antichrist opposes Christ (1 John 2:22: “Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son”), not leads His flock (John 21:15–17: “Feed my sheep”).
5. Overall Error: Ignoring the Church as Christ’s Bride
The chapter’s premise denies the Church’s divine origin (Ephesians 5:25–27: “Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her… so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle”). Attacks on the Church attack Christ (Acts 9:4: “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?”—to the persecutor of the Church). True Christianity is one body (1 Corinthians 12:12–13: “For just as the body is one and has many members… so it is with Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body”).
This chapter’s distortions provide the non-Christian Adventist view, not truth (1 Corinthians 1:10: “I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you”). Let’s discuss a specific verse—what troubles you most?
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