Posted on 11/14/2025 5:23:47 AM PST by vespa300
THE THIRD COMMANDMENT.
Q. What is the Third Commandment? A. The Third Commandment is: Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.
Q. Which is the Sabbath day? A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
Q. Why did the Catholic Church substituted Sunday for Saturday? A. The Catholic Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.
Q. By what authority did the Church substitute Sunday for Saturday? A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon her.
Q. What does the Third Commandment command? A. The Third Commandment commands us to sanctify Sunday as the Lord’s Day.
Q. What does the third commandment forbid? The Third Commandments forbids (1) The Omission off prayer and divine worship; (2) All unnecessary servile work; (3) Whatever hinders the keeping of the Lords Day a grievous matter? A. The desecration of the Lords Day is a grievous matter in itself, through it admits of light matter.
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Not the official catechism of the church, but like so many previous books and articles produced by prominent Catholic Bible scholars of the past, clear statements of what was the postion of the church with regard to the change of the weekly day of rest.
This is not an attack on this church. Simply a historical reference. See for yourself....pages from the book are displayed. I do not know why Catholics here refuse to acknowledge this. Furthermore, I do not know why Catholics here refuse to include the weekly holy day as part of the moral law when their own official current catechism mandates a weekly day of rest.....Sunday. The first day. The current Catechism has not abandoned the weekly day of rest requirement. It has simply changed it. They have a instituted a new "Sabbath" just as this catechism did above in this book. Stop with the "Jesus is the Sabbath" .....nonsense. The current Catechism takes no such position. It requires Roman Catholics to keep Sunday as a day of rest.
Does the SDA accept the Talmud as instructive and inspired?
Subelsequent Church teaching has since clarified that a Catholic is to observe the Sunday obligation by going to Mass. The non-work requirement is deemed subjective since office work is not manual labor. Hence it is not a sin for someone who is an office worker to do “gardening” for example on Sunday after Mass so long as Mass attendance is faithfully kept.
That satifies current Catholic obligations.
A 7 day weekis arbitrary. Why not 10 days for a week.
Section 2176, 2185, 2187, and 2188 of the current OFFICIAL Catholic Catechism (Holy See) Note in section 2188 she calls for Sunday to be a mandated religious HOLY DAY!!
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Section 2176
The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship “as a sign of his universal beneficence to all.”109 Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.
Section 2185
On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are to refrain from engaging in work or activities that hinder the worship owed to God, the joy proper to the Lord’s Day, the performance of the works of mercy, and the appropriate relaxation of mind and body.123 Family needs or important social service can legitimately excuse from the obligation of Sunday rest. the faithful should see to it that legitimate excuses do not lead to habits prejudicial to religion, family life, and health.
Section 2187
Sanctifying Sundays and holy days requires a common effort. Every Christian should avoid making unnecessary demands on others that would hinder them from observing the Lord’s Day. Traditional activities (sport, restaurants, etc.), and social necessities (public services, etc.), require some people to work on Sundays, but everyone should still take care to set aside sufficient time for leisure. With temperance and charity the faithful will see to it that they avoid the excesses and violence sometimes associated with popular leisure activities. In spite of economic constraints, public authorities should ensure citizens a time intended for rest and divine worship. Employers have a similar obligation toward their employees
Section 2188
In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country’s legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this “festal gathering,” this “assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven.
End.
This all looks harmless and good. Unless of course you keep a different day. The Bible Sabbath.
https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7O.HTM
___Subelsequent Church teaching has since clarified that a Catholic is to observe the Sunday obligation by going to Mass. The non-work requirement is deemed subjective since office work is not manual labor. Hence it is not a sin for someone who is an office worker to do “gardening” for example on Sunday after Mass so long as Mass attendance is faithfully kept.
That satifies current Catholic obligations.___
I posted direct quotes from the current Catechism below. I think the main point is her assumed authority to change the 10 commandments with regard to the weekly holy day which she has historically held. There is a change of recent. This book could probably not be written today. Since Pope Paul issed his letter DIES DOMINI, they now tend to cite Bible support for the change. She does what she has to do.
___Does the SDA accept the Talmud as instructive and inspired?___
The following is listed as Number 1 in our 28 fundamental beliefs.
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1. Holy Scriptures
The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration.
The inspired authors spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to humanity the knowledge necessary for salvation.
The Holy Scriptures are the supreme, authoritative, and the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the definitive revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history.
(Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.)
https://adventist.org/beliefs#belief-1
Yet, the insistence of Saturday as Sabbath is quite Talmudic.
____A 7 day weekis arbitrary. Why not 10 days for a week.___
The Genesis record of creation gave us the 7 day week for which there no natural reason to have other than creation week. God could have created all in one day if he desired...he’s God.
But he gave us an example of how to live our lives. Work 6, rest 1, work 6, rest 1......
The last thing he “made” was in fact the 7th day Sabbath. It’s a creation for us. Jesus said the Sabbath was MADE FOR MAN. Mark 2:27. It is a wonderful blessing and gift to the human race. To set aside a weekly day of rest that he made holy....the 7th day. And to worship him. It’s very interesting to read the various translations of Genesis 2:2 to 4 where we first see the 7th day creation and God declaring it to be a holy day.
BibleGateway is a great tool. Here’s one example:
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By the seventh day God finished what he had been doing and stopped working. 3 He blessed the seventh day and set it apart as a special day, because by that day he had completed his creation[a] and stopped working. 4 And that is how the universe was created.
Good News Translation.
God himself blessed the 7th day and set it apart.....at creation. Before any Jew was around. Jesus said FOR MAN. God calls it HIS HOLY DAY too. He puts it in the 10 commandments.
The only of the 10 with gospel.....come rest! In his completed work ....both creation and redemption! In the 2nd version of the 10 he gave to Moses, the Sabbath commandment is the only one that differs from the first.
In the first, it references his creation. In the 2nd it references his delivery of his people from Egypt. Creation and Redemption! Jesus creator. Jesus redeemer.
The 7th day Sabbath is one deep subject ....
___Yet, the insistence of Saturday as Sabbath is quite Talmudic.___
Well, if that means the Seventh day Adventists accept as the inspired the only Bible Jesus ever had and quoted from, the Old Testament....that’s us. We are protestants. We accept both the Old and New Testaments of holy writ.
Thank u.
Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
A lie from the Beast of Daniel, its little horn and the father of all lies, Satan.
Oh, you can kiss me on a Monday a Monday a Monday is very very good Or you can kiss me on a Tuesday a Tuesday a Tuesday in fact I wish you would Or you can kiss me on a Wednesday a Thursday a Friday and Saturday is best But never ever on a Sunday a Sunday a Sunday cause that's my day of rest
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Does the SDA accept the Talmud as instructive and inspired?
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They may not, but they seem to believe the followers of the Talmud are instructed and inspired..
And that’s SDA’s blindspot.
Of all of the stupid theological arguments the Sabbath is the worst. We haven’t held it since the time of the Apostles. No large Protestant denomination keeps it. We celebrate the Lord’s Day now. How can the SD suddenly say “ wait! We have it all wrong!” 2,000 years later?!
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst theological argument that can be had..
But the SDAs try telling us Rome is bad, but yet they need Rome to stick around.
And their beliefs essentially try to tell us rejecting the Son, like Judaism does, is the path to Truth.
Their faith that Judaism cant possibly be deceived by Satan these days is a blindspot to their doctrines..
____Well, there is a song about that for you old timers.
Oh, you can kiss me on a Monday a Monday a Monday is very very good Or you can kiss me on a Tuesday a Tuesday a Tuesday in fact I wish you would Or you can kiss me on a Wednesday a Thursday a Friday and Saturday is best But never ever on a Sunday a Sunday a Sunday cause that’s my day of rest___
I think I remember that song, yeah. Yeah, from back when Christians actually kept Sunday as the Lord’s day. Now they all say .....nah, we aren’t under the law.....after shouting how much they believe in the 10 commandments.
They are a bit discombobulated I’d say. All over the place.
_____Of all of the stupid theological arguments the Sabbath is the worst. We haven’t held it since the time of the Apostles. No large Protestant denomination keeps it. We celebrate the Lord’s Day now. How can the SD suddenly say “ wait! We have it all wrong!” 2,000 years later?!____
You must mean that 7th day Sabbath that was ordained at creation? In Genesis. The 6000 year old one. Yeah...that’s the one. And as for the majority....well heck. We all know if everyone believes it....it has to be true!
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Amen! Those stupid Seventh day Adventists. Cultists who actually believe in all 10 commandments and both the Old And New Testament. They are weird! Amen bruh.
TOTALLY missed the point.
How about this: if the early Christians, who learned at the feet of Jesus and his Apostles, eliminated the Sabbath obligation and celebrated the Lord’s Day instead, who does the SDA think they are to second guess them 1800 years later?!
Protestantism - where doctrine is decided by majority vote.
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