Posted on 10/25/2025 8:33:21 AM PDT by Philsworld
Why do many Christians refuse to acknowledge or be included in the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, and as a result will not partake in the Lord’s Supper/Communion, in remembrance of Him?
Is there any other NEW COVENANT other than spelled out in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8/10 and mentioned in 1 Corinthians 11?
Hebrews 8: 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
Hebrews 10: 16“This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.
Institution of the Lord’s Supper
1 Corinthians 11: 23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “THIS CUP IS THE NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD”. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
Probable reasons for refusal to acknowledge Christian application of the NEW COVENANT OF JESUS CHRIST:
Insistence that the term “Israel” only includes literal Jews and doesn’t transfer to Gentile Christians…dispensational error.
Refusal to acknowledge that the laws put into our hearts by Christ includes the 10 commandments, AS KEPT BEFORE CHRIST’S DEATH, including the 7th-day-Sabbath.
Refusal to acknowledge that after the death of the Testator (Jesus Christ), NO COVENANT CHANGES can be made by anyone, including observance of the 7th-day-Sabbath/10 commandment law.
https://www.biblelightinfo.com/covenant-seal.htm
The Last Will and Testament of Jesus Christ
When did the New Covenant go into effect and who is the mediator?
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he [Jesus] is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of [His] death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
“The terms or substance of the New Covenant are the same as that of the Old Covenant, obedience to the Ten Commandments. However, the New Covenant is a better promise, a promise by God to write His laws into the hearts and minds of the people of Israel, and to remember their sins no more.”
“The New Covenant came into effect with the sacrifice, shedding of blood, and death of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. As this Testament of Jesus Christ was put into effect by His death, the terms of the Testament cannot be changed by anyone after that.”
I don’t know—maybe it’s the same reason you refuse to acknowledge your religion was founded by a false prophetess and is thus invalid?
——>I don’t know
Will any professed Christian be saved if they deny inclusion, according to terms, in/of the New Covenant of Jesus Christ?
Sounds like you’re one of those that refuses to be included in the New Covenant of Jesus Christ.
No matter how much you despise the SDA church and EGW, scripture is crystal clear on the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, its terms, and meaning.
I recommend that you TREAD LIGHTLY, especially in light of this text:
Hebrews 10: 29Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Who precisely is the false prophetess? Do tell.
The result ?
You assume too much.
All Christians can take communion.
Good question because a careful study of Hebrews reveals the so called “new covenant” is actually older than the so called “Old Covenant.” The “Everlasting” Covenant is the same as the “new” covenant mentioned in Hebrews 10.
The old Covenant didn’t fail, the People did.
I think the Evangelicals attempt to use the so called “New” Covenant to do away with the Sabbath commandment. It’s very poor Bible scholarship. God says he will write his laws in our hearts because the chosen people had his law as a burden. Including the Sabbath day.
David called the law a “delight”......
Anyways, good question.
Oh, interestingly enough....we read in Hebrews 8 verse 10 that clearly talking about this “new” covenant, the text says he is making this covenant with the “House of Israel.”
Yet another example that we are spiritual Israel. Ye be Christ, ye be Abraham. Heirs according to the PROMISE, not the SEED.
Unless we think God has 2 laws.....or he expects literal Israel to continue to keep the Sabbath, while the Christians keep Sunday.
The evangelicals have no explanation for this other than nonsensical spin. Imagine.......God is going to have 2 groups of people. Literal Israel keeping the 7th day...the rest of us keeping the first day.
No, the law of God is fine thank you very much. It’s the people that were the problem. The law, the 10 commandments are described as Perfect converting the soul. You don’t change perfection.
Psalm 19:7
New King James Version
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, [a]converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
——>The evangelicals have no explanation for this other than nonsensical spin. Imagine.......God is going to have 2 groups of people. Literal Israel keeping the 7th day...the rest of us keeping the first day.
Those going to heaven keep God’s 10 commandment law. It’s as simple as that.
Revelation 14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
——>You assume too much.
I assume that those Christians going to heaven consider themselves under Christ’s New Covenant and obey His 10 commandment law, written into their hearts and minds. Most Christians don’t.
I knew I smelled something false-teachy.
You missed my point.
On purpose.
Your assertion anything prevents taking Communion is absurd.
And wrong.
You couldn’t defend that assertion, so you ignored my point.
Then changed the subject.
First tell me what the heck is a
“SDA church and EGW”
These are new to me.
I have been involved with missionary work for almost all of the 50+ years of my Christian existence and have seen hundreds, if not thousands, come to Christ in a genuine and lasting manner, and most of them put many that flout their "biblical knowledge" to shame by their simple faith and Christian behavior, and many have them have died for their faith. To assume that ANY of them were not Christian because they did not acknowledge being a member of a covenant is the height of arrogance.
EGW is Ellen G White who founded the Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) cult in 1846.
“——>I don’t know
Will any professed Christian be saved if they deny inclusion, according to terms, in/of the New Covenant of Jesus Christ?”
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No. Jeremiah 31 promises a New Covenant between God and man.
John 13 and Matthew 22 reflect Jesus Christ telling His followers that the Old Covenant had been fulfilled, and that he was adding a new commandment: to love your neighbor as He has loved us.
n Matthew 7, Jesus tells us we will recognize true Christians by their fruits of salvation.
In John 21, Jesus tells Peter what he/we must do if we are truly Christians and love Him.
The idea that salvation relies on reciting only some inner prayer for forgiveness isn’t biblical, and has never been.
EGW is Ellen G White who founded the Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) cult in 1846.
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Every new church begins life as a cult, even the Universal Catholic Church.
It is thus that the Sabbath of the Gathering of the Summoned People be ordered for every Week, calling all the men of The Faith to assembled for the Breaking of Bread on the Eighth Day (the First Day following the previous sabbath of days) in commemoration of the initiation of a (not "the") local regular Sabbath for His Church, wherever that may be, fixed by the sun according to the earth's rotation.
Well, the Seventh Day Adventists do wrongly honor the sabbath ordained by the Mosaic Covenant, which was abolihed at the Cross when Jesus cried out, "τετελεσται" ("It is once and for all time finished, no longer applying to mankind!") Both He and Moses' Law were dead, commencing and during the sabbath day that immediately followed.
The SDA just don't get it. They determinedly misinterpret the meaning of the Scriptures that you, philsworld, have cited, They sinfully misdirect their unlearned constituents to celebrate the Old Covenant, NOT the New Covenant, which all true Christians do honor with their allegiance to the New Still-existing Covenant, with a High Holy Sabbath Convocation of those pledging allegiance to the Christ of the Bible!
It is you, philsworld, that you do not treadsoftly, but ravage and demean bith the Christian Sabbathm as well as the diet that is fully ioen to them, not veggies like the SDA.
You should direct that comment to Elsie. He has posted that he does not believe in the Christian New Covenant and does not observe/participate in the Lord’s Supper/Communion.
I could care less if anyone participates in communion, you included. It’s your business. But those who do, yet deny they are included in the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, are committing an abomination. Same for those who refuse to keep God’s law, which is CLEARLY connected to the New Covenant.
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