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Discerning False Prophets: Seeing Their Converts - Evangelical Caucus/Devotional
Gracetoyou.org ^ | 2008 | John McArthur, Grace Community Church

Posted on 07/05/2025 5:41:18 AM PDT by metmom

“‘Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits’” (Matthew 7:19–20).

We can spot false prophets by the kind of people they attract. Their converts will have the same kind of superficial, self-centered, unbiblical orientation as they do. Of this sort of attraction Peter says, “Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned” (2 Peter 2:2). Many folks gravitate to false teachers because those men propagate what the majority of people want to hear and believe (cf. 2 Tim. 4:3).

God has not ordained false prophets, but within His will He allows them to exist. And it is within His purpose that false factions develop. “For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you” (1 Cor. 11:19). Factions often attract followers of false teachers. And in a sense, this protects genuine saints by separating the chaff from the wheat in the church.

Ultimately, the Lord makes sure that the converts of false prophets, who do not bear good fruit, get cut down and thrown into the fire of judgment. Peter says they are “bringing swift destruction upon themselves” (2 Peter 2:1; cf. Jer. 23:30–40; John 15:2, 6). A watchful, discerning, vigilant believer, armed with the Word of truth, will be able to isolate false teachers and withdraw from them, because he or she “will know them by their fruits.”

Ask Yourself

Discussions like these often get us labeled as haughty and narrow-minded. How do you handle these kinds of accusations? Why will some people never understand your concern for the church’s purity?


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
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1 posted on 07/05/2025 5:41:18 AM PDT by metmom
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To: Alex Murphy; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ealgeone; Elsie; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...

Studying God’s Word ping


2 posted on 07/05/2025 5:41:42 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

John always comes across to me as arrogant. I can’t watch or listen to him. He’s one of the frozen chosen and needs to humble himself.


3 posted on 07/05/2025 5:54:19 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: metmom

Most of the “MacArthur” channels offered to me by YouTube these days are AI generated frauds.


4 posted on 07/05/2025 6:01:38 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Seems there ae a lot of those going around.

I do my work to find the genuine source and only use those, like Jack Hibbs at *Real Life with Jack Hibbs*, and Jonathan Cahn’s official site. I get notifications from them and only go there.

Aside from avoiding fraudulent videos such as AI generated, I refuse to give someone hits for trying to get hits on their site by using someone else’s material.


5 posted on 07/05/2025 6:12:31 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

AI generated frauds...

And Youtube lets that go on while censoring conservatives for spreading “disinformation.”


6 posted on 07/05/2025 6:31:10 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

Goes to show who’s really running things.


7 posted on 07/05/2025 6:46:49 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

I think to put all of those “Prosperity “ preachers in the same basket.


8 posted on 07/05/2025 7:38:57 AM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: Craftmore

Fine, then don’t bother with the threads.

Nobody is forced to read them.


9 posted on 07/05/2025 9:04:23 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

I was just reading this article that compliments your post today:

Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 24:23–27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 1:17–18). To guard against falsehood and false teachers, it’s important to know the truth and know the characteristics of the counterfeit. Any believer who “correctly handles the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15) and who makes a careful study of the Bible can identify false doctrine.
https://www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html


10 posted on 07/05/2025 10:17:02 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: metmom

**Jonathan Cahn’s official site...**

This guy calls him Jonathan CON...

About 4 minutes in he pretty much exposes him...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfkm_Bq9V3g&pp=ygUkSm9uYXRoYW4gY29obiBmaWdodGluZyBmb3IgdGhlIGZhaXRo


11 posted on 07/05/2025 10:57:43 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

I’m familiar with his books and teachings and have never heard him say America was in covenant with God or that America was a stand in for Israel.

Cahn draws some interesting parallels but other than that, I don’t see him making predictions or anything.

He does know his history, though. He’s mentioned things in his books that I was unaware of.


12 posted on 07/05/2025 11:22:58 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Zuriel

I watched only part of the video.

I’m on vacation with poor internet connections and will check out the rest of it at home.


13 posted on 07/05/2025 11:27:00 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

All the best for your vacation!


14 posted on 07/05/2025 11:51:54 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

Thanks.


15 posted on 07/05/2025 1:16:16 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom
Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned

It's always bothered me that so many of them seem to wink at premarital sex among their members. No preaching against sin, EVER. Not even their "ministers" are held to the highest moral standards. It should not be so among the Lord's called.

16 posted on 07/05/2025 2:10:31 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: ViLaLuz; metmom
Amen. The Sword of the Spirit (the only offensive weapon in the Christian's armor) is the Word of God.

Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can make your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness arrayed, and with your feet fitted with the readiness of the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (Ephesians 6:10-17)

17 posted on 07/05/2025 2:15:34 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: metmom

Discern False Prophets — OK

= = =

Are there any real prophets out there??


18 posted on 07/05/2025 4:32:41 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: metmom

If you watch this starting at 9:15 to 9:27 you get to see a bit of ‘prophets’ and ‘prophetesses’, with Cahn leading the breaking of ‘the altar of Ishtar’. His first swing didn’t crack it, but his second did. Then some other guys step in and start swinging hammers, most without safety glasses. Heavy NAR presence.


19 posted on 07/05/2025 7:51:19 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: metmom

Oops. Here’s the link...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIfrZeLbZOo&pp=ygUeYSBtaWxsaW9uIHdvbWVuIGFuIGVzdGhlciBjYWxs


20 posted on 07/05/2025 7:52:30 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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