Posted on 04/05/2025 11:49:11 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
We dive deep into the controversial case of Blessed Carlo Acutis and the troubling evolution of the Church's canonization process. Since Pope John Paul II removed the adversarial "devil's advocate" role, canonizations have exploded in number, with one priest lamenting, "We're becoming a factory here." Friends of Carlo share surprising revelations that cast doubt on the narrative around his extraordinary sanctity, raising uncomfortable questions about manufactured devotion versus authentic veneration.
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Others, not them at AB, have raised the following issues: the number of miracles required in the past compared to now, if more was expected concerning past miracles then now, why are there so many post-Conciliar canonizations (in the amount of time this covers versus the rate of canonizations for centuries before)
, and what friends had to say in The Economist article.
I consider Sainthood to be no more legitimate than the Nobel Peace Prize at this point.
just out of curiosity, how do they prove miracles hundreds of years after the fact?
Where in the hour+ youtube video is the relevant bit?
Let’s say person “A” is being considered to have the initial steps to a possible canonization at some point in the future taken for them, perhaps 50, 75, 100, 200 years after their passing.
When person “A” was still alive, for example in the 1700’s or 1800’s, 1900’s (or before) there was the-then, current, when they were alive, people around them who could see and testify to their heroic virtue, the life they lived, etc.
Then, after they passed away, if any miracles were attributed to them it became known, the Church took notice of it, people recorded it, etc.
At some point after their passing the process then starts.
This is nowhere near the best explanation, but it gives you a rough idea into the mechanics of it.
14:46-44:30
IIRC a greater lapse of time was required before opening a cause prior to Paul VI
They need to bring back the “Advocatus Diaboli” gig (i.e., someone who had the specific job of making the case of why the person shouldn’t be considered a saint). The adversarial system is the best method of getting at the truth.
It seems like it would be an exciting process. Someone should make a documentary about it. It’s like a detective novel. Thanks
I thought you might be interested in this.
Post conciliar canonizations are a great number because the real purpose is to canonize the fake council.
Ding, ding, ding!
We have a winner!!!
The purpose is to canonize Vatican II, the post-Conciliar “popes”, and the post-Conciliar “church.”
Canonize Vat II and the popes” who pushed the following:
There’s the issue of so much protestantism coming from the Vatican, or allowed by them, such as Anglicans holding a service in a Catholic Church in Rome, Bergoglio appointing a nun to be aprefect, allowing Luther’s statue to remain in Vatican City, his saying Luther was correct in his teaching on Justification when the infallible, Extraordinary Magesterial Council of Trent long ago declared Luther taught heresy on it, his declaring that Methodists, Lutherans, Catholhcs, etc, all have the same faith when they don’t, liturgical rites where a table replaces an altar, etc.
Fr.Bugnini said that his aim in designing the New Mass was “to strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren, that is, for the Protestants.”
That aligned with heretic Luther saying “The mass is not a sacrifice but a thanksgiving to God and a communion with believers.”
His was a man-made liturgy in which mention of the sacrifice of Calvary has been insistently removed, as well as any sacrificial tone, and only the notions of praise and thanksgiving retained. Even the altar, which was turned toward Jerusalem reminding us of the sacrifice of Christ to God, was replaced by a table in order to emphasize the new notion that the Mass is mainly a banquet, and notasacrifice.
Dr Smith, one of the six protestant observers at Vat II, a Lutheran representative at the commission of ‘observers’: “We have finished the work that Martin Luther began.”
Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi, Lex Vivendi of Novus Ordo “Mass” vs TLM:
This survey was bolstered by preceding and subsequent surveys, by both Catholic and secular pollsters:
51% of NOM “Catholics” approved of abortion compared to 1% of TLM Catholics [within the MOE]
Only 2% of TLM adherents [also within the MOE] approved of homosexual “marriage” compared to 67% of NOM “Catholics.”
More from the survey on abortion, etc, at:
A belated thanks-—I eventually found a non-paywalled version of the root article
https://archive.is/0kj4L
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