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Who Really Loses In Our Hook-Up Culture?
Hotair ^ | 02/16/2025 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/16/2025 7:13:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Readers of a certain age will know the answer instinctively. Unfortunately, most people are under a certain age, and very confused about sex, love, and biological imperatives.

That's what Louise Perry writes in a new book, excerpted today as an essay at The Free Press. In the essay, A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century sounds a lot like the old guide to sex in the 20th century before The Pill upended everything about humans and sexual relations. Perry argues -- correctly -- that women and men want different outcomes from socialization, and decades of attempting what Erica Jong promoted in her 1973 novel Fear of Flying as the "zipless f***" still leads women astray.

It's still getting pushed by feminists to this day, as Perry points out:

Hookup culture benefits some men, at the expense of most women.

That’s because male sexuality and female sexuality, at a population level, do not match. On average, men want casual sex more often than women do, and women want committed monogamy more often than men do. Hookup culture therefore demands that women suppress their natural instincts in order to meet the male demand for no-strings-attached sex. Some women are quite happy to do this, but most women find it unpleasant, or even distressing. This is unfair, particularly given that sex carries so many more risks for women, who might end up with an unwanted pregnancy, or being slut-shamed, or even being assaulted.

But even though hookup culture is a terrible deal for women, it is often presented by liberal feminism as a form of empowerment. Progressive media outlets churn out articles such as “5 Fantastic Ways to Engage in Feminist Hookup Culture,” which argues that “we need to respect that people should make their own decisions about their bodies and their sex lives.” But this approach overstates the extent to which anyone can make truly free choices in a system that is stacked against them.

That certainly sets up the premise, and Perry follows up with both anecdotes and data. The data is depressingly predictable: hook-ups leave women more anxious, depressed, and dissatisfied than men. Why? Men get what they want, while women largely do not. Men have paid close attention to the "zipless f***" propaganda and feel no moral obligation to consider whether women really want that or only use it as an entrée to something more meaningful.

Perry quotes a Reddit thread in which a man expresses frustration with his "friend with benefits" and her emotional breakdown over his disinterest in her other than sex:

She brings it up and starts asking me what should she focus on to be the kind of girl guys want to marry one day. I told her she is fine the way she is, she just needs to find the right guy. She asked me why I don’t want to date her down the road when I am looking for something.

I told her that she is great, but she isn’t really girlfriend material in my eyes. She started crying like crazy after that. I don’t know what was going on, we never had a thing, she never talked about having feelings or anything.

This man seems to be genuinely bewildered by the fact that the woman he has been having sex with for many months is unhappy. And the woman seems to have drifted into this arrangement, not realizing how little regard her partner really has for her. This is a tragedy of mutual incomprehension.

That is certainly one aspect of it, but "mutual incomprehension" is a second-order issue. The first-order issue is that hook-up culture asks its participants to treat other human beings like commodities. Even the mechanics of hook-up culture are structured for that approach; 'dating' apps such as Tinder are basically human shopping malls. And men generally have an easier time with transactional encounters than women do, as millennia of prostitution should amply demonstrate. (Even crediting prostitutes with agency to treat sex transactionally with full consent, there are far more johns than prostitutes in any society.)

These are not new concepts. Human societies used to understand this, and ordered their mores and courtship practices to protect both men and women from this kind of exploitation and misery, not to mention the longer-term social consequences of promiscuity. Pope Paul VI warned of the outcomes of a contraception culture in his prophetic 1968 encyclical Humane Vitae, written after the emergence of the Pill and the subsequent so-called Sexual Revolution. The Catholic Church got pressured to rethink its doctrines on sex to account for The Pill, but Pope Paul VI rejected that pressure and warned what would happen to women who get fooled into thinking they've been liberated, emphasis mine:

17. Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection.

That describes the man in the Reddit thread to a T. It never even occurs to him that his 'friend' should find care and affection, and he certainly feels no need to care about her physical and emotional equilibrium. He views her as a commodity, a receptacle for his pleasure, and tacitly devalues himself to the same status -- as he assumes that's how she sees him. They both have sold themselves into a form of transactional slavery, but only the woman is deluded into thinking that this is a strategy for something else.

Perry offers advice to women generally, but in this upcoming edition to young-adult women in particular, that could have come straight out of the 1950s. It boils down to this message -- respect yourself, which also would have been advice in that generation:

The fact that a man wants to have sex with you is not an indication that he wants a relationship with you. Holding off on having sex for at least the first few months of a relationship is therefore a good strategy. It filters out the men who are just looking for a hookup. It gives a woman time to get to know a man before putting herself in a position of vulnerability. Also, avoiding the emotional attachment that comes with a sexual relationship makes it easier to spot red flags: Free from the befuddling effects of hormones, it’s possible to assess a new boyfriend’s behavior with clearer eyes.

"Sex must be taken seriously," Perry argues, not impulsively. We used to know that before the Pill came along and radicals attempted to deconstruct human society. The wreckage of the Sexual Revolution has been both societal and personal, with the family model nearly disappearing and fueling crime and chaos. The hook-up meat markets create individual personal tragedies too, physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. 

Be sure to read it all at the Free Press. There's also lengthy podcast between Perry and Bari Weiss on the topic that's well worth your time. But no one can pretend that this is new, and no one can pretend that we didn't know the truth from the beginning. We were warned, and we rejected the prophet to embrace the darkness. As the Judeo-Christian scriptures tell us, that's nothing new either. And that's why we are, in the words of Weiss and Perry, we have chosen to live in a pagan society.


The front-page image is a picture of hookup apps on phone, via Wikimedia Commons and Nodstrum.com.



TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: adultery; fornication; hookup; men; sex; women
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1 posted on 02/16/2025 7:13:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Women, almost all of them, and average men lose. The most attractive men lose nothing, in this life. Although I wouldn’t want to be an extremely attractive man before the Judgement throne to explain all the abortions that I might have convinced women to have because I didn’t want to be a father and husband to any of them.


2 posted on 02/16/2025 7:17:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for posting this.


3 posted on 02/16/2025 7:21:17 PM PST by thecodont
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To: SeekAndFind

everyone looses including you and I but especially the women/girls.

The down grade of the culture in general pulls everyone down to a degree.

Humans are designed to be monogamous and mutually nurtured, promiscuity removes the trust and security that sexual intimacy was meant to produce.


4 posted on 02/16/2025 7:34:28 PM PST by Romans Nine
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m often amazed at how casual encounters are treated in the movies and TV. Sex is the most intimate thing two people can do with each other and how often do women put a greater emphasis on it than men. How much do either of them really know about each other when the first date leads to a sexual encounter. Did she just wake up next to a serial killer? Me and Mrs. Dad met in 10th grade and dated in 12th and got married a year and a half after high school. In May if she lives that long we’ll celebrate 50 years of marriage. Even though she doesn’t know who I am right now I’ll always know who she is. I feel like too many people in this hookup culture will never know true love and love that sacrifices for the sake of the other.

Putting my soapbox away.


5 posted on 02/16/2025 7:35:06 PM PST by Dad was my hero
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sex must be taken seriously”. Great phrase...


6 posted on 02/16/2025 7:36:36 PM PST by exinnj
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To: SeekAndFind

Very good article. I just forwarded the Hot Air essay by Mr. Morrissey to my sister who has an 11 year old granddaughter. I told her it’s about the right time for my nephew and niece to start having discussions like this with her granddaughter. I suggested that she could even buy them a copy of Louise Perry’s new book.


7 posted on 02/16/2025 7:37:27 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Here’s another in-depth interview of Perry, this one is with Chris Williamson. Simple discussion with straightforward reasonable questions from Williamson and useful high quality responses from Perry. This is how journalism should work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAmQ7Tcrh6A


8 posted on 02/16/2025 8:08:07 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

Can I try ? At least once.


9 posted on 02/16/2025 8:15:31 PM PST by onona
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To: SeekAndFind

The ‘Pill’ didn’t upend everything.

The breakdown of human character did.


10 posted on 02/16/2025 8:18:40 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

What the pill did do was instill a perpetual pregnant state within the woman, hormonally. Women will often select mates depending on their state of reproduction.

A woman not pregnant wants a more masculine man. That’s why a woman in her 20’s will pick a high value mate for his reproductive value. However, a woman who is pregnant will choose a reliable mate, who may not have as much reproductive value.

What happens is that a woman on the pill will choose a more reliable mate instead of the high value mate. However, when she stops taking the pill, she loses attraction to her current mate and breaks up with him.

You can often see this at work when you see a woman with a reliable man, but no children. However, when she finds a high value man, she will give birth to one or more child with a few years.


11 posted on 02/16/2025 9:00:55 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: Jamestown1630

The hypergamy game is basically the hormonal pattern of woman on a societal scale.


12 posted on 02/16/2025 9:01:37 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: SeekAndFind

For many men, the percentage of women that are bangable is much greater that the percentage of women that are wife material. Women think these percentages are equal. Women think they deserve the best man that bangs them as a husband, else they are settling. It would be better if women married earlier but they want to be like men. Typically men have to establish themselves before they get married.


13 posted on 02/16/2025 9:02:29 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: oldplayer

Thanks. My sister found that video and sent it to me!


14 posted on 02/16/2025 9:02:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole.)
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To: SeekAndFind

there are less and less young men in church or with Christian values compared to even 25 years ago, ( I take censue for a couple of large churches) so it is getting increasingly difficult for young women to find a quality man to date,let alone marry


15 posted on 02/16/2025 9:06:59 PM PST by TECTopcat
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To: TECTopcat

It’s because the church culture is no longer the warrior culture that is attractive to men.


16 posted on 02/16/2025 9:08:57 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: SeekAndFind

This degrades and diminishes all women who do it,

The men involved were already diminished and degraded.

VD just gets passed around, along with a lesser ability to actually bond and stay with a future mate.

You cheapen your marriage sleeping around before marriage.


17 posted on 02/16/2025 9:19:08 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: TECTopcat

Why should men marry when its a losing proposition for them? They have nothing to gain by being married but they risk losing half or more of everything they own if the woman decides she’s not happy. She also gets then kids 85% of the time regardless of her conduct in the marriage. Why is there never any talk of fixing the marriage laws?


18 posted on 02/16/2025 9:19:14 PM PST by gawatchman ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

The feminist movement has been a disaster for women.

They talked the women into giving away for free the thing that man want most from women.

Truly stupid!


19 posted on 02/16/2025 9:33:10 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Way more women win than men.

80% of dateable men are not even visible to women, just by physical attributes alone. At the same time women and society blame the men for their inability to “get” a woman. The average man does not register on theaverage modern womans radar anymore due to their inflated self worth and ever increasing list of standards they “deserve”.

The difference is average women, and even some below average women, can get a man. There are still men who would try. They won’t be the men they want that are way out of their reach, but at least they aren’t invisible like the average man is to women.

Further women get to have preferences and standards. Men are blasted for having preferences and standards. Women think just themselves is all they need to do. Men have to check off a laundry list of must-have boxes on her list, including ones out of their control.


20 posted on 02/16/2025 9:39:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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