Posted on 02/05/2025 9:02:20 PM PST by Red Badger
It’s just common sense and the way most people from time immemorial naturally align their priorities.
Oh good...a Bible thread. I’ll share something I’ve been struggling with that maybe someone here more enlightened than myself could help me with. When G-d helped Moses free the Israelites from Pharaohs control, Numbers 1:46 says that there were 603,550 military aged men over 20. So extrapolate that out and add, say, three more each for younger children, women, elderly etc and you get...something like 2Million total population. G-d did all kinds of miracles to save those people. Seven plagues, Column of cloud by day, pillar of fire by night, water from a rock, manah from heaven to eat, swarms of birds to eat, Ten Commandments, parting the Red Sea.....you get my point. Now G-d was present in all his might, real for all to see and for Moses to talk to G-d “face to face as a man talks with another man” in the tent of meeting (Ex 33:11). But then a bit later on in history between 1939-1945...G-d allowed the Nazi’s to brutally torture and murder over SIX MILLION of the very same people. Where was G-d then? I’d really like to know. Thank you.
That’s exactly the verse I was thinking of posting.
Genesis 15:13-14Then the Lord said to Abram, “Know for certain that your offspring will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs and will be servants there, and they will be afflicted for four hundred years. But I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, and afterward they shall come out with great possessions.
And shortly after the Holocaust, God restored the land of Israel to the Jews and they had their ancient homeland back.
I would hazard a guess that it did provide a number of the Jews motivation to emigrate to Israel, given the chance, which is also fulfilling Bible prophecy.
But who knows the purpose for that kind of horrific persecution and suffering?
first, God is Sovereign over His Creation. He has the Right and Authority to do anything he wants with it and us. second, at times in history, God executes judgement on humanity due our intransigent disobedience of his Law (which is called sin). this includes us Gentiles and His chosen people, the Jews. for example. God destroyed all of humanity (and His terrestrial Creation) in the flood which Noah, his family and certain breeding animals on the Arc survived through Noah’s Faith in God.
in this case, the Jews were guilty of the sin of rejecting Father God’s only begotten Son, Christ Jesus, and also of their continuing return to idolatry, which God really hates. perhaps for this and His own reasons which we don’t completely understand, after all He is God whom we can never fully understand, he put them out of the land (’for many days’ this time), and dispersed them among the nations of the world around 70 AD when Jerusalem was mostly destroyed by Rome as punishment for yet another Jewish rebellion. imho, the Romans where just as brutal and merciless to the Jews in that action as the Nazis were. you can read the history yourself. indeed, all earthly empires seem to take turns trying to wipe out the Jews....
but anyway, since then, they have continued in their wayward, idolatrous ways and thus have continued to suffer greatly as a People. nevertheless, the Lord has not allowed them to be destroyed completely. he has preserved an ethnic remnant of Jews throughout many of the nations of the world, including in Israel, to this day.
mercifully for the Jewish People/Nation, the Bible prophesizes the gathering of Jews back in Judea, and Jesus’ return in the Millennial Kingdom where he will take dominion with them over all the nations of the earth and restore them and the temple, and a form of sacrifice in Israel proper.
hope that helps you a bit, of course you’ve got to get into the Word for yourself. this is just my ‘cliff notes’ version for you.
Zechariah 13
The Shepherd Struck, the Sheep Scattered
7 “Awake, sword, against my shepherd,
against the man who is close to me!”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“Strike the shepherd,
and the sheep will be scattered,
and I will turn my hand against the little ones.
8 In the whole land,” declares the Lord,
“two-thirds will be struck down and perish;
yet one-third will be left in it.
9 This third I will put into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”
The saying “charity begins at home” used to be familiar to most people.
I have no doubt some of the Jews in Egypt wondered where He was for 400 year, too.
As far as God not showing up like he did in the past.....
Have you not read the news recently? And are you unaware of how President Trump’s life was spared in Butler, and what he’s now accomplishing?
When God parted the Red Sea, the Jews had to be stuck between the sea and pharaoh’s army all night before it parted.
God’s great miracles of deliverance don’t come without dire circumstances that people need to be delivered from.
It’s when it’s life and death that the big noticeable miracles happen. The Red Sea, Daniel in the lion’s den, the four friends in the fiery furnace, Peter being released from prison facing execution the next day, and the list goes on.
And those events cover close to 6,000 years of history. So it wasn’t like God did it ALL the time even then. He did it occasionally.
And He still works today in other less noticeable ways. They’re just not as obvious and dramatic, because the situations we need to be delivered from aren’t as desperate.
“Liberal Christians” No such thing. They are Godless liberal progressives who see Christianity as just another tool to further the communist revolution.
They are the same idiots who say “My brother ‘s keeper” to justify stealing tax dollars to give to their pet welfare programs and “turn the other cheap” to justify liberal violence and oppression of Christian’s.
I love you. means a lot of things in the vernacular.
but when a Christian says that in the context of the Bible, they mean:
I serve you.
once you understand that, you understand why there is so much confusion. for example, the Robinsons on this site are demonstrating Christian ‘love’ for *all* of us by providing this internet site.
even the article above gets something like ‘affection’ conflated with Christian love. in the Greek were talking about ‘agape.’ a better english word is ‘charity.’
GMTA.😊
I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, it has been increasingly easier to shell out a few bucks for those unfortunates far, far away (virtue signaling or salve for the conscience) than those closer to us. In fact, most people find the most difficulty practicing charity among their own flesh and blood.
That’s because they’re heretics.
This is what happens when you dumb everything down.
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