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[Catholic Caucus] Cardinal Radcliffe: Church Can Learn “A Bit of Truth” From LGBTQ+ Catholics
New Ways Ministry ^ | December 19, 2024 | Jeromiah Taylor (he/him/it)

Posted on 12/19/2024 9:49:54 AM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Cardinal Radcliffe: Church Can Learn “A Bit of Truth” From LGBTQ+ Catholics

Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, O.P., remarked on what he has learned from his lengthy pastoral career among LGBTQ+ Catholics. In an interview ahead of his creation as cardinal, The Dialog reported that when asked about how to square pastoral concerns with the church’s sexual ethics, Radcliffe replied:

“When we meet people who are different from us, with whom we disagree, instead of dismissing them as always wrong, we have to be open to receive the bit of truth that they have from which we can learn.”

Radcliffe, who was once Master of the worldwide Dominican Order and served as a chaplain to the Synod on Synodality’s global assemblies, was a pastoral agent on the frontlines of the AIDS epidemic. According to The Dialog, he “has long promoted the study of Catholic social doctrine and the intersection of theology and social problems.” It was in his AIDS ministry that the Dominican priest “got to see how much love and compassion there was” in the LGBTQ+ community.

The new cardinal indicated that the church’s sexual ethics were not often an obstacle when ministering to LGBTQ+ people, saying:

“In all my years of working, it’s very rare people raise the issue of chastity. I think most of them know that I stand by the teaching of the church and so they don’t come to me to find easy ways out. What they want in the first place is friendship, welcome and recognition that they are like all of us, fellow disciples seeking to follow the will of the Lord.”

Although he affirms the church’s sexual teaching as “sound and good” and containing “fundamental wisdom,” Radcliffe acknowledged that even without outlining a “new” sexual ethic, the church is called to locate “nuance” and more effectively present its teaching as “liberating and good.” This includes understanding the matter “more in Eucharistic terms because at the heart of our faith is our Lord who said, ‘This is my body, and I give it to you,'” Radcliffe said. He added that, “[Jesus] gave himself once and forever to us to be wounded, but to be accepted as a gift.”

Ultimately, Radcliffe said compassion is the key, warning against putting people “in boxes.”

“They are people like you and like me,” Radcliffe said. “I think what the church offers is love and what it has to do is to receive the gifts that each person gives.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: apostates; frankencardinal; sodomites; timmyradcliffe

1 posted on 12/19/2024 9:49:54 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 12/19/2024 9:51:12 AM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

Sure, we can learn a bit of truth. The truth is that sexual depravity is depressing and leads to personal and societal destruction.

It is better to get these lessons through induction rather than first-hand knowledge.


3 posted on 12/19/2024 9:52:08 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: ebb tide

“Cardinal” and “Timothy Radcliffe, O.P.” should never have ended up being put together.

That they were, is a deliberate insult to the faithful.


5 posted on 12/19/2024 9:57:14 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Dr. Sivana

Exactly.


6 posted on 12/19/2024 9:59:17 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ebb tide

Another Catholic leader who is so open-minded, their brains have fallen out

There is only ONE truth, Your Eminence.


7 posted on 12/19/2024 10:00:44 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ebb tide

Maybe, just maybe, cardinal should read the Bible.
There is the Truth about LGBTQ+ people spelled very well!


8 posted on 12/19/2024 10:01:16 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: ebb tide
“got to see how much love and compassion there was”

Buggery and disease spreading hatred and sociopathy.

9 posted on 12/19/2024 10:02:55 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Some people can learn by reading books.

Some people learn better by watching others.

And some people just HAVE to irrigate the electric fence.


10 posted on 12/19/2024 10:05:20 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

“When we meet people who are different from us, with whom we disagree, instead of dismissing them as always wrong, we have to be open to receive the bit of truth that they have from which we can learn.”

We do not say they are wrong; the holy scriptures of the Bible say they are wrong. We simply repeat the scriptures to them.


11 posted on 12/19/2024 10:51:43 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: ebb tide

Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, O.P.:

“What they want in the first place is friendship, welcome and recognition that they are like all of us”. Well Cardinal, they ain’t like me in that regard. Are they like you?


12 posted on 12/19/2024 12:25:32 PM PST by kawhill (Did they say why Willard? Are my methods unsound?)
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Add to the list:

19th of December 2024: Newly ordained cardinal, Timmy Radcliffe states Church can learn from sodomites.

13 posted on 12/19/2024 3:32:16 PM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus Christ. I love you.


14 posted on 12/19/2024 5:11:42 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: one guy in new jersey
So true NJ.. so true.
He is good friends with a Pastor in our diocese.
Heard him speak once.. as some sort of sociological/sexual religio expert and what the "truth" about modern relationships and how they should be redfined for us.
Ick.

He is unabashedly gay.

There is no wondering there.
And yes he is a persecutor of the Church...
Just as Jesus promised us.


15 posted on 12/20/2024 8:28:24 AM PST by MurphsLaw (“Be Doers of the Word… not Hearers Only, deceiving yourself.”)
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