Posted on 12/07/2024 12:55:15 PM PST by ebb tide
What the Church's documents say about homosexuality "is time-related and must be reviewed in the light of the insights we have today from a moral-theological and ethical perspective," Auxiliary Bishop Ludger Schepers, 71, of Essen, Germany, told Dw.com (December 4) [implying that revelation is the same as the zeitgeist of 1968].
A homosexual [and a pedophile?] "is the way he or she is now, that's just the way it is".
What happens at the level of the universal Church, such as at the ex-synod, is for Schepers "not always clear, especially with Pope Francis":
"But it is quite clear that the US Jesuit James Martin is an important figure on this issue on the big stage of the global Church and is [allegedly] pushing it forward. And the new Cardinal of Hong Kong has also made comments to this effect in an interview."
Schepers' homosexual activism "is very often perceived very positively", he wants to believe: "Not in all circles, that's clear. After some of my statements, I am almost bombarded with biblical passages or confronted with accusations that I am no longer Catholic."
Ping
Subjective truth is from the devil who knows Scripture better than any Bible scholar... but only reads it to know his enemy. He twists what is true to an understanding of falsehood in his defiance of God.
SONG FOR THE NEW DAY
For the Pure and Shining One A song of smiting, sung for the new day by King David
Intercession
Help, Lord! Save us! For godly ones are disappearing.
Where are the dependable, principled ones?
They’re a vanishing breed!
Everyone lies, everyone flatters, and everyone deceives.
Nothing but empty talk, smooth talk, and double-talk.
You will destroy every proud liar who says, “We lie all we want.
Our words are our weapons, and we won’t be held accountable.
Who can stop us?”
May Yahweh cut off their twisted tongues
and seal their lying lips.
May they all be silenced—those who boast and brag with their
high-minded talk.
Intervention
But the Lord says, “Now I will arise!
I will defend the poor,
those who were plundered, the oppressed,
and the needy who groan for help. I will spring into action to rescue and protect them!”
For every word Yahweh speaks is sure and reliable.
His truth is tested, found to be flawless, and ever faithful.
It’s as pure as silver refined seven
times in a crucible of clay.
Inspiration
Lord, you will keep us safe,
out of the reach of the wicked.
Even though they strut and prowl,
tolerating and celebrating what is worthless and vile,
you will still lift up those who are yours!
Psalm 12
More and more it sounds like the church hierarchy are copying Cardinal Glick (played by George Carlin) from Dogma. When will they bring out Buddy Christ?
Why stop at homosexuality? Why not add a few more "time-sensitive" sins?
Church Teaching on Adultery Depends on "the Times".
Church Teaching on Pedophilia Depends on "the Times".
Church Teaching on Robbery Depends on "the Times".
Church Teaching on Lying Depends on "the Times".
To sum it all up: Church Teaching on any venial or moral sin Depends on "the Times".
Post 7 correction: should read “mortal” not “moral”.
St. Peter Damian saw what utter trash did to his times, too.
The Germans and Bergolio are making a mockery out of the saints who fearlessly fought against sodomy and the damage it did to the culture OF THE TIMES.
Does this prelate know the approval homosexuality had in Mediterranean societies 1900 years ago when Paul’s letter called it out. It was far more accepted by pagan Rome and Pan Hellenic than it is even now.
Great so you are what would potentially be a formal heretic per Canon Law (1983 Code Can. 751)
Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”
Now Canon 751 could in theory not hold in your case if, again if, through no fault of your own (Pope Pius X Catechism Q29 related to Article 7 of the Creed) you were invincibly ignorant (See Pope Pius IX issued December 1854 Singulari quadam; and 10 August 1863 encyclical, Quanto conficiamur moerore) when you rejected the Catholic faith.
Now with that said what verse in the Bible did the Catholic Church change? What Dogma or infallible Doctrine was changed?
All you have is a 71 year old Auxillary Bishop, who will hit retirement age at 75 spouting nonsense. Nobody is saying hey lets make this guy Pope or following this guy accept some people who have already embraced dissident views on Catholic Doctrine.
So you have left, great, which among the thousands of protestant eclessial communities, you are not Churches in the proper sense, do you belong to?
This is a catholic caucus.
Please stop violating it.
I’m Catholic. Quit assuming you know everything and control others, or wish you did...it’s not very Catholic. It is also a forum.
BTW, you invited me ebby. See post #2 or3
I have never denied a Pope. I have never maligned a Pope. I have never posted and article calling a Pope names or articles/cartoons that isinuate, if not outright state, any Pope is under the influence of Satan, not properly elected and/or an anti-christ. You have. Pope Francis is Pope. Clear and simple enough, ebby?
If so, why are you so supportive of sodomy and sodomites?
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