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Evangelicals For Harris Exposed As Pro-Abortion
Evangelical Dark Web ^ | October 3, 2024 | Ray Fava

Posted on 10/03/2024 9:02:52 PM PDT by Morgana

What do you get when you have a gaggle of female pastors in support of Kamala Harris? The answer is numerous attempts at justifying abortion. In a recent Evangelicals For Harris women’s “prayer call,” abortion became a top priority on why Evangelicals should support Kamala Harris for president. Evangelical Dark Web infiltrated the prayer call and has clips to unveil.

The call was hosted by Lisa Sharon Harper who is a theologically liberal author with pronouns in bio. She runs the company Freedom Road which conducts struggle sessions. Panelists include Sandra Van Opstal, a female pastor; Patricia Ruiz Cantu, a diversity hire on the board of Evangelicals For Harris; and Judy Peterson, a female pastor at large (a fancy way of saying without a church).

Peterson makes is clear that Evangelicals For Harris opposes Christian Nationalism and the ability of Christians to dictate through legislation when life begins in a society with differing believers. Not believing that any religion can be invalid, Peterson’s dripping universalism is paired with a love of democracy for democracy’s sake. She argues that Christians do not have a unanimous view of when life begins to delegitimize Christian attempts at legislating abortion. However, the debate regarding ensoulment within Christianity has been between conception and implantation. Both of these events occur before an abortion, making ensoulment a moot point. Peterson goes on to argue Jesus laid his life down for us and this was bodily autonomy. Jesus’s bodily autonomy therefore means that women have the bodily autonomy to kill unborn babies. 1 Timothy 2 remains undefeated.

Sandra Van Osptal would make a free will argument, She argues that God gave women a free will to choose whether to kill their babies or not and therefore the government does not have a right to interfere with this free will. She argues that people will ultimately be judged by God for their decisions, and that this is no one else’s business. Ironically, this argument applies to politicians who enact pro-abortion policies. God will judge them for their actions. And Christians who criminalize abortion will be rewarded. This Reddit-tier argument befits a diversity hire well.

She would go on to denote how Intervarsity Alums felt betrayed by Evangelical support for Trump in 2016 and how many of these people are no longer in the church. Per the Bible, they were never saved.

Abortion was the number one topic in this Evangelicals For Harris event and surprisingly, the gaggle of female pastors did not even try to dress up their unhinged support for abortion as even vaguely pro-life.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; evangelicals4harris; evangelicalsforbiden; fakechristians; kamala; notevangelical; notevangelicals; pcusa; prolife; sbc; searchworks

1 posted on 10/03/2024 9:02:52 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Evangelicals for harris are fake Christians and heretics.


2 posted on 10/03/2024 9:47:33 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Morgana

Pervert Marxism


3 posted on 10/03/2024 9:55:54 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Kamala: "understand that some people need more, so we all end up in the same place, right?”)
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To: Morgana

PENAL CODE
TITLE 5. OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON
CHAPTER 19. CRIMINAL HOMICIDE
Sec. 19.01. TYPES OF CRIMINAL HOMICIDE.
(a) A person commits criminal homicide if he intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence causes the death of an individual
....
Sec. 19.06. APPLICABILITY TO CERTAIN CONDUCT. This chapter does not apply to the death of an unborn child if the conduct charged is:
(1) conduct committed by the mother of the unborn child;
(2) a lawful medical procedure performed by a physician or other licensed health care provider with the requisite consent, if the death of the unborn child was the intended result of the procedure;
(3) a lawful medical procedure performed by a physician or other licensed health care provider with the requisite consent as part of an assisted reproduction as defined by Section 160.102, Family Code; or
(4) the dispensation of a drug in accordance with law or administration of a drug prescribed in accordance with law.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm

“No state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.”

Amendment XIV, Section 1

“The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a “person” within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant’s case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment.”

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)


4 posted on 10/03/2024 10:00:09 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Kamala: "understand that some people need more, so we all end up in the same place, right?”)
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To: Brian Griffin

That’s right.


5 posted on 10/03/2024 10:04:15 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Morgana
“ Sandra Van Osptal would make a free will argument, She argues that God gave women a free will to choose whether to kill their babies or not”

One could use this argument is support of any criminal behavior.

6 posted on 10/04/2024 2:02:06 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Morgana
The question for all such is:


7 posted on 10/04/2024 4:46:13 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: No name given

They’re not authentic Christians.
“Not believing that any religion can be invalid”
Christianity is also called “the way”. Belief in Christ’s resurrection as the only means of salvation excludes other purported means.
If there are other ways to obtain salvation, then Christ’s death was unnecessary.


8 posted on 10/04/2024 5:35:11 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification.)
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To: Morgana

Baby killers.


9 posted on 10/04/2024 5:47:10 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Jamaican/Injun "immigration" plan. Dilute and pollute until America is a third world sewer..)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

10 posted on 10/04/2024 6:32:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Morgana; ebb tide; Red Badger; Liz; SunkenCiv
Not believing that any religion can be invalid, Peterson's dripping universalism is paired with a love of democracy for democracy's sake. She argues that Christians do not have a unanimous view of when life begins to delegitimize Christian attempts at legislating abortion. However, the debate regarding ensoulment within Christianity has been between conception and implantation. Both of these events occur before an abortion, making ensoulment a moot point. Peterson goes on to argue Jesus laid his life down for us and this was bodily autonomy. Jesus's bodily autonomy therefore means that women have the bodily autonomy to kill unborn babies. 1 Timothy 2 remains undefeated.

Sounds like the “catholic” priest from the Atlanta Archdiocese last night who was repeatedly citing pope Francis's same “collective” and “social good” litany of word salads to justify voting for his democrats nationally. Against “the evil businesses who only seek profit”.

Did you know pollution and global warming and profits and border control were more evil than abortion? /wow

11 posted on 10/04/2024 7:01:35 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Morgana

The “Christian” and “Evangelical” “pro-choice” positions are to me intellectually dishonest. Their argument is akin to saying “I do not believe in killing babies in the womb” but “I do not believe in opposing you doing that”.

That is similar to saying “I believe in the death penalty for certain criminals” but “I don’t believe in carrying it out”.

These are minds that are internally conflicted.


12 posted on 10/04/2024 7:42:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Their mindset is “Our children have value and deserve to live but not the children of those other people”


13 posted on 10/04/2024 7:54:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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