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The Pope is NOT an Absolute Monarch! Catholics Must Understand the Limits of Episcopal Authority!
Les Femmes ^ | June 29, 2024 | Mary Ann Kreitzer

Posted on 06/29/2024 12:58:23 PM PDT by ebb tide

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St. Paul warned even of bishops who would teach error as ravening wolves, Acts 20:29, formulating this principle for both clergy and lay faithful. Even if we or an angel from Heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be a curse. As we have said before, so now we repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be a curse, Galatians 1:8-9.”
1 posted on 06/29/2024 12:58:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/29/2024 12:58:54 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

Agree. Well said. I am a nominally Catholic, but do not bow to the Pope especially an anti-Pope or any other human. The one and only absolute authority I acknowledge is Christ (and therefor God).


3 posted on 06/29/2024 1:03:56 PM PDT by piytar
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To: ebb tide

would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope?
do you think he’s a fool? ..... Black Sabbath


4 posted on 06/29/2024 1:03:59 PM PDT by changeitback440
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To: changeitback440

Didn’t we give it to the limits at Yorktown?


5 posted on 06/29/2024 1:08:46 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

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6 posted on 06/29/2024 1:09:00 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: ebb tide

Great, so traditionalist Catholics then agree that monarchy is not the end all of political systems?

Also the Tridentine Mass is NOT the absolute mass


7 posted on 06/29/2024 1:10:20 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: ebb tide

“but he is the ultimate authority and if they disagree they can obey anyway or “off with their heads!”

That is not a proper image for the Catholic Church.”

Has anyone told Bergolio this? He seems to not know this...


8 posted on 06/29/2024 1:12:06 PM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: pigeoninthepark

Go back to your pigeons.


9 posted on 06/29/2024 1:13:15 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: pigeoninthepark
No man whatsoever may have permission to infringe these provisions (for the TLM) containing our permission, statute, ordinance, mandate, precept, concession, indult, declaration, will, decree and prohibition, or be so rash as to oppose them. But if anyone should presume to attempt this, he must know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of his Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul. Pope St. Pius V, Bull Quo Primum, 1570 A.D.
10 posted on 06/29/2024 1:22:12 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide
The Vatican disagrees.

"Vatican City State is governed as an absolute monarchy. The Head of State is the Pope who holds full legislative, executive and judicial powers."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110524030947/http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/State_and_Government/StateDepartments/index.htm


Note the "absolute monarchy" bit.

11 posted on 06/29/2024 1:44:06 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ebb tide

“…The rehabilitation of the Ancient (Latin) Mass must absolutely not be understood as a concession to the Society of St. Pius X, but as a way for the whole Church to be one with herself inwardly, with her own past; that what was previously holy to her (Latin Mass) is not somehow wrong now…” Last Testament: In His Own Words by Pope Benedict XVI


12 posted on 06/29/2024 1:48:06 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Paal Gulli

Note it’s not referring to the Roman Catholic Church.


13 posted on 06/29/2024 1:49:34 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Paal Gulli
Do you not know the difference between the"Vatican City State" and the Holy Catholic Church?

Only Our Lord, Jesus Christ, is our Sovereign King! No one else, Paul.

14 posted on 06/29/2024 2:09:55 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

In the old days when a Pope was no longer useful, they poisoned him or some other such treachery. I’m not encouraging this, just offering as a historical perspective on these problems.


15 posted on 06/29/2024 2:24:55 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm lost and looking for the Lake of Respect.)
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To: ebb tide

“I perceived how it was impossible to establish the lay people in any truth, except that the Scripture was plainly laid before their eyes in their mother tongue.” — William Tyndale


16 posted on 06/29/2024 4:11:38 PM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: Tell It Right

Tyndale got what he deserved.


17 posted on 06/29/2024 4:14:44 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide
Tyndale got what he deserved.

I take it you'd rather there be no translations of the Bible except in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Arabic, Geez, and Latin?

I thought no modern day Catholic was against the Bible being translated into common languages. I guess I was wrong.

"If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause a boy that drives the plough, shall know more of the scripture then thou does." -- Tyndale

18 posted on 06/29/2024 4:27:51 PM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: Tell It Right
I thought no modern day Catholic was against the Bible being translated into common languages.

You thought wrong.

My problem is with heretics.

P.S. Your comments have nothing to do with this article.

19 posted on 06/29/2024 4:46:55 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: Tell It Right

Nope, there were many Bible translations of the Bible before Luther

See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_in_the_Middle_Ages#:~:text=Altogether%20there%20were%2013%20known,Bible%20in%20Middle%20High%20German.


20 posted on 06/29/2024 4:59:14 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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