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To: P8riot

——>It is a waste of time to question other’s salvation, specially after they are gone, there is nothing to be gained by it.

Ravi’s salvation is no one’s business, except God’s (now that Ravi is dead). But, he lived the OSAS/OJAJ doctrine. He was the poster boy. There is certainly a lesson to be learned. Living that kind of sinful life, while claiming God’s saving grace and believing in the OSAS/OJAJ doctrine, will cause loss of salvation. Did Ravi genuinely repent before he died? Who knows. None of my business. But, his story should make everyone think about the bigger picture.


11 posted on 05/04/2024 5:29:29 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

That’s the irony (right word?) of the cross where Mother Teresa could be in hell and Hitler in heaven with a perfect confession.


14 posted on 05/04/2024 9:47:10 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Philsworld

Regarding OSAS, Hebrews 10:25ff pretty much nails it. There is no doubt that this is addressed to authentic Christians who wish to avoid persecution.

The command is given, “...forsake not the assembly of the saints, as some (habitually) do...”

This establishes that they are authentic Christians.

The topic then incorporates “willful sin” with the statement, “...for if we sin willfully, there is no more sacrifice for sin...” This places an equals sign between those who purposely choose to miss worship and those who will be under condemnation. To put this as a simple declarative sentence, “THE BIBLE SAYS: Willfully and habitually avoiding the worship service will lead to condemnation.” As a generalization, “...knowing to do good, but choosing to continue in it, is sin...” applies to all sorts of actions and thoughts.

It would seem to be useless to defend oneself by claiming to accidentally sin again and again.

OSAS cannot be consistent in the least bit with that passage.

Some appeal to Paul to support “always saved,” when he says “we are SEALED” and “who can separate us from God” but then Paul says he buffets his body lest he, himself, be disqualified. Paul thinks he can lose his salvation; but what does he know?

Some appear to have mastered the art of “straining at gnats and swallowing camels.”


15 posted on 05/04/2024 11:15:13 AM PDT by NorthStarOkie (The Lord is merciful but he is not stupid.)
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To: Philsworld

OSAS——I don’t think that’s a given.
Workout Your Salvation with Fear And Trembling.
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That ‘still small voice’ is there for Us.


19 posted on 05/04/2024 7:33:24 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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