Posted on 04/10/2024 1:41:45 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
John 3:16-21
Friends, our Gospel passage today includes
one of Scripture’s best-known and best-loved lines.
The Lord is speaking to Nicodemus, and we read,
“God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son,
so that everyone who believes in him
might not perish but might have eternal life.”
Why does the Son come?
Because God is angry?
Because God wants to lord it over us?
Because God needs something?
No, he comes purely out of love, out of God’s desire that we flourish:
“For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,
but that the world might be saved through him.”
It is not in order to work out his anger issues that the Father sends the Son,
but that the justice of the world might be restored.
Jesus is the fulfillment of God’s salvific intent,
displayed throughout the Old Testament.
Our natural state, once we have used up our life force, is death and non-existence.
That’s the fate of the unsaved if they do not accept God’s gift to mankind.
“John 3:16-21 Friends, our Gospel passage today includes one of Scripture’s best-known and best-loved lines. The Lord is speaking to Nicodemus, and we read, “God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone who believes in him MIGHT not perish but MIGHT have eternal life.”
From the KJV:
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Bishp Barren, could you please tell me where you got this and what bible. Different bibles may say it differently, but to my knowledge, it didn’t say “might” in any bible I’ve seen.
wy69
“John 3:16-21 Friends, our Gospel passage today includes one of Scripture’s best-known and best-loved lines. The Lord is speaking to Nicodemus, and we read, “God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone who believes in him MIGHT not perish but MIGHT have eternal life.”
From the KJV:
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Bishp Barren, could you please tell me where you got this and what bible. Different bibles may say it differently, but to my knowledge, it didn’t say “might” in any bible I’ve seen.
wy69
Not non-existence, but eternal existence without God (which is hell).
No. Non-existence. We aren’t naturally immortal. That’s why the Bible talks about the resurrection. If you are immortal, you don’t need to be resurrected. What are you getting resurrected for if you are not dead and have an existence?
The Bible wouldn’t talk about a resurrection, since there would be no need for one since we exist eternally. It would just talk about getting a new body or the Second Judgement of the unsaved.
Jesus talked about and warned about hell more than anyone else.
See for example Matthew 18:8, Mark 9:43 - 45.
These warnings would not be given if he was just talking about non-existence.
Yes, the fate of the unsaved is punishment, not punishing.in Revelations, once the hellfire goes out the earth is remade.
I don’t understand “hellfire goes out”.
Read John 5: 28,29.
We all have mortal bodies which will die. We will all be resurrected, some to eternal life in God’s kingdom, some to eternal punishment. This is referred to as the second death.
By the way, the last book of the bible is Revelation (short for the revelation of Jesus Christ), not “Revelations”.
Biblically speaking... YMMV.
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