Can you be anti-Zionist and not be antisemitic? There are many Jews and Muslims whom I know that feel that way. They have nothing against Jews as people of the book, but they regard the creation of Israel as a historical wrong. Zionism is very new, and with the destruction of the second Tenple and the nullification of the Jewish priesthood (which will never be restored) you could make the case that it’s irrational for post WW2 western powers and the US to have created a new country in the Middle East on land that was already populated. If anything Germany should have set aside a chunk of land for them. They certainly would have had an enduring peace compared to the endless war and enmity they now have.
There are many “Jews” who hate Israel.
There are many non-Jews who love Israel.
It’s a Spiritual War.
It’s a Spiritual question that you ask.
Genesis 12:3
If you don’t consider modern Israelis as descendants to Ancient Israelites (deny the DNA tests all you want I guess) and deserving of repatriation of their ancestral lands - then you know where you stand.
After being soundly criticized few months back on a Philadelphia blog my reply, being deeply researched, convinced me that those of US intimidated by zionist accusations of antisemitism need to do a comparison of Jews and zionist jews and then grow a pair.
My response, due to irregularities that occurred getting it on the blog, was copied to my website https://www.bucksafa11.org/2023/11/08/if-we-hear-lies-we-must-scrutinize/ which, if you read it, I think you will be able to view the matter more clearly and with greater understanding.
How is the restoration of Israel as a country wrong?
If Israel had not been attacked and scattered, they wouldn't have needed to be restored to their own country. They'd have never left it, they'd still be there.
What is wrong with giving people back their own country? Isn't it just a form of reparations?
And besides, when Jews started going back, Israel was still a wasteland. There's a reason nobody lived there for a long time.
Just what is this "Zionism" that you are "anti?" Is it simple Jewish nationalism or the "plot to rule the world" outlined in the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?"
There are many Jews and Muslims whom I know that feel that way. They have nothing against Jews as people of the book, but they regard the creation of Israel as a historical wrong.
Have you ever read the Book of Joshua? How can anyone who acknowledges that the Law of Moses and the Book of Joshua are from Heaven regard a Jewish state in the Land of Israel to be "unjust?"
Zionism is very new,
Jewish nationalism is not new. The entire Hebrew Bible is about Jewish nationalism. And as the only people in the history of the world to receive a public manifestation of the unincarnated G-d and hear His voice, they're also the only people to have anything to be nationalistic about.
Moreover a return to Zion in the End of Days is an inherent part of the Jewish religion and has been since Sinai.
The term "Zionism" is relatively new. It refers to a movement and organization founded in the late nineteenth century as a typical secular European nationalist movement (all nineteenth century European nationalist movements were secular and even "left wing," coming out of the French Revolution and some remain so to this very day). Unfortunately Herzl (an agnostic whose children all converted to chrstianity) was a secular nationalist as were perhaps most of the members of this particular movement, although there were always religious Zionists. But Zionism was a "big tent" and was not (as some people seem to think) inherently socialist or Communist. There were secularists and Torah Jews as well as socialist, free enterprise, and even Fascist Zionists. The socialists concentrated on bringing people to Israel and wound up running the state from 19"48 until Begin, but that did not make Zionism inherently "socialist."
and with the destruction of the second Tenple and the nullification of the Jewish priesthood (which will never be restored)
Now you simply don't know what you're talking about. The Jewish priesthood (Kohanim) haven't gone anywhere. The priesthood is passed from father to son and has been since Aaron. The Kohanim still give the priestly blessing, follow the laws peculiar to them, and are called up for the first Torah reading to this day.
And how do you know it was "nullified?" Is it because chrstianity teaches this? How do you know chrstianity is even true to begin with? Surely even you acknowledge that at one time Judaism was the One True Religion, and as such, it gets to judge and pass judgment on all the claims of "Divine revelation" that have been made since. Do you really think chrstianity is the "fulfillment" and successor of Judaism? Why? It's not enough for chrstianity to make this claim or the "new testament" to say so. All this must be judged what is known to be the True Religion prior to that time. If the original True Religion made no call for such a "successor," then the "successor" must be rejected. If you simply accept the claims of chrstianity from the outset and even accept the Hebrew Bible only on the authority of the new religion, then you are being the opposite of logical. This is actually a logical fallacy known as "affirmation of the consequent."
you could make the case that it’s irrational for post WW2 western powers and the US to have created a new country in the Middle East on land that was already populated. If anything Germany should have set aside a chunk of land for them. They certainly would have had an enduring peace compared to the endless war and enmity they now have.
And they didn't have endless war and enmity before???
Just when are you planning to give the USA back to the Indians? You are planning to do that, right? Surely you aren't a hypocrite who insists that only Jews don't have the right to conquer land and vanquish the "natives?" And I certainly hope you didn't support Rhodesia or South Africa! What was the difference between them and the Zionists other than that they weren't Jewish and weren't in the Holy Land?
Sheesh.