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How Can You Canonize Without Bonafide Miracles?
Catholic Family News ^ | March 15, 2024 | Matthew Plese

Posted on 03/19/2024 1:22:32 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

How about Sts Michael, Gabriel and Raphael?

Why are they saints and not Lucifer?

They all believed and were in the presence of God.


21 posted on 03/19/2024 2:11:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: taxcontrol

2 Thessalonians 2:15 literal Greek translation…

“So then, brethren, be constantly standing firmly, and be holding fast to the teachings which were delivered to you to be passed on to others, which you were taught either orally or through our letter.”

The Thessalonians were taught by Paul and by the Scriptures.

These were not made up traditions.


22 posted on 03/19/2024 2:14:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Texas_Guy

I know what it is.

A false definition of God’s clear declaration of sainthood.


23 posted on 03/19/2024 2:15:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

Michael and ol gabe are angels and not humans. Not saints. They are servants of believers.

From Luther’s testimony, he is a saint.

So far I can’t see evidence you are a saint ebb, though the Gospel has been shared with you over and over.


24 posted on 03/19/2024 2:18:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
He was never a true believer.

Yes, he was, AMPU.

 

"And Satan entered into Judas, who was surnamed Iscariot, one of the twelve.
[Luke 22:3]

Don't let Satan enter you!

25 posted on 03/19/2024 2:18:12 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

All Canonizations post Vatican II are suspect, to put it kindly.


26 posted on 03/19/2024 2:19:19 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: ebb tide

Satan can’t enter a believer, who has been sealed by the Holy Spirit.


27 posted on 03/19/2024 2:19:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You, yourself, said, "God in Scripture declares ALL true believers to be saints."

So now you're claiming Sts. Michael, Gabriel and Raphael are not "true believers"?

What a tangled web you've weaved.

So far I can’t see evidence you are a saint ebb, though the Gospel has been shared with you over and over.

I don't care what you think about me; only what God thinks about me.

28 posted on 03/19/2024 2:26:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Satan can’t enter a believer, who has been sealed by the Holy Spirit.

If you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.

Nothing is "sealed" until death, Judgement, Heaven or Hell.

29 posted on 03/19/2024 2:29:45 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

—> So now you’re claiming Sts. Michael, Gabriel and Raphael are not “true believers”?

No ebb. I pointed out they are not human, cannot have salvation, etc.

—> only what God thinks about me.

He wants you to be saved, according to Scripture.


30 posted on 03/19/2024 2:32:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

—> Nothing is “sealed” until death, Judgement, Heaven or Hell

Do you even read what declares in Scripture?

😀


31 posted on 03/19/2024 2:33:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

“How Can You Canonize Without Bonafide Miracles?”

Be LGBTQ+?


32 posted on 03/19/2024 2:33:41 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: ebb tide
Father Guido Sarducci...

Saturday Night Live...

Sarducci criticized a new Pope by claiming that "two of his miracles were card tricks."

Image result for saturday night live father guido sarducci. Size: 155 x 200. Source: alchetron.com

33 posted on 03/19/2024 2:34:56 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: ebb tide

Do chubby chasers ( guys who are only into plus sized women ) have a patron saint? Just asking for a friend.


34 posted on 03/19/2024 2:37:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Here is the Cliff’s Notes version that ebby is trying to promote: St. Pope JPII started naming more Saints during the 80s. JPII had his hand in Vatican II. Therefore, all is invalid including the Sainthood of JPII.

Thank you very much!

Another bit of advice. Don’t correct ebby’s falsehoods. It only leads to his conflating your statements to support his outlandish ideas.


35 posted on 03/19/2024 2:42:09 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Even that judging of Judas, is against what Jesus taught. Judge not, lest you be judged. For all we know, he repented when he threw the coins away, and was murdered. Not many people who hung themselves, have I heard of their bellies bursting assunder...spilling out. I wasn’t there. I have a hard enough time not judging say....NotsoPresident Biden, and MANY MANY others in public office. Judging who is a Saint in the eyes of The Almighty, is way above my pay grade, and I would say every other person on Earth.

Forgive me Father for my weak mind and the hate within it..... In Jesus name, Amen.


36 posted on 03/19/2024 2:43:38 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You didn't say anything about "humans" or "salvation":

"God in Scripture declares ALL true believers to be saints."

Your web is getting mighty tangled; don't get trapped in your own web.

37 posted on 03/19/2024 3:00:32 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Oystir
Here is the Cliff’s Notes version that ebby is trying to promote:

You don't speak for me, oystir. You never have.

38 posted on 03/19/2024 3:02:56 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
From Luther’s testimony, he is a saint.

And by your testimony, you're a saint.

I've heard that horse-hockey so many times from your ilk.

39 posted on 03/19/2024 3:15:50 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Oystir

Ebb will come to saving faith in Christ.

He continues to fight the savior as Saul did.


40 posted on 03/19/2024 3:46:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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