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To: mdmathis6

So, you think that people who don’t follow your religion and see God your way have no morality or ethics or philosophy? Even animals exhibit some rudimentary forms of ethics.


158 posted on 02/22/2024 5:52:28 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
Even animals exhibit some rudimentary forms of ethics.

Tell that to the mosquito I just killed.

160 posted on 02/22/2024 6:03:08 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Jamestown1630
So, you think that people who don’t follow your religion and see God your way have no morality or ethics or philosophy?

They think of God in the wrong way. Period.

161 posted on 02/22/2024 6:06:54 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Jamestown1630; Jumper; caver
Freemasons to accept transgender women – if they joined as men

An evil, sick cult.

162 posted on 02/22/2024 6:17:41 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Jamestown1630

Let Acts 17:22-34 answer that question. It was Paul’s sermon to Athens and it;s philosophers. he builds his sermon around their worship of “The Unknown God” i see irony here because I see many Masons committed in unity in the worship of the Athenian concept of the “Unknown God”.. At Athens it was an altar set up so that a person may sacrifice to what ever God they may have missed, lest an individual run the risk of incurring the wrath of some sore and neglected deity.
Paul contended that it was the God of Israel that was the true “Unknown God’ that was being worshipped and that this God was tolerant of such things in the past but was now commanding that the whole world follow Christ for a fixed day of judgment was coming...

“Acts 17:22 Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; 23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:

TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.

Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”

32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked, while others said, “We will hear you again on this matter.” 33 So Paul departed from among them. 34 However, some men joined him and believed, among them Dionysius the Areopagite, a woman named Damaris, and others with them.”

In a way Masonry is a corrupted version of the reality of God that Paul exposited on Mars hill in Athens. It is a twisted echo of what Paul preached at Athens. Compare and Contrast What Masonry says about its general philosophy vs what Paul says about “The Unknown God’ and you can see the deviations away from God’s word and his command that the whole world should repent and come to Jesus.


163 posted on 02/22/2024 6:20:23 PM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Jamestown1630

Now let Romans chapter 2 answer more specifically about ethics morality and philosopy as to whether or not non Christians can show a sense of ethics and morality. They can...but not in any way that saves their souls. The blood and flesh spilled and broken respectively from Jesus could only ever do that to make us acceptable to God.

“Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

All men have a knowledge of what is good and evil, right and wrong and indeed some very ethical and moral men who don’t believe in Christ are following what is already instinctual by conscience to follow. Yet it won’t save them unless they have Believed on Christ and were saved. Still God will be the ultimate judge, especially in those cases where they never heard the gospel but were very moral and ethical people. The Bible is clear what happens to those who hear and reject the truth...God will judge graciously those who never heard about Jesus but were found to be Christ like in their lives...I think we’ll find in the day of judgment that there will be some surprises as to just who will find or not find their names in Christ’s Lambs book of life. I rest assured that if Christ can find some lost sheep that can be saved, he will do so. Many will go to the Lake of Fire...others...well God will judge with grace as Justice AND grace can allow!


178 posted on 02/22/2024 6:49:39 PM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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