[Jan_Sobieski]

You can say you are a Christian all you want. If you practice evil, it is a sign you have departed from God and do not have the Holy Spirit of God working in your life. Don’t worry, you are in good company. Falling away seems to be en vogue…

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

[Theo]

“If you practice evil, it is a sign you have departed from God and do not have the Holy Spirit of God working in your life.”

I agree. It could be a sign that you have departed from God.

But obedience does not *earn* your salvation.

I give up on your ever grasping the concept of salvation first, obedience second. It’s not “cheap grace” to understand that Christ is the Savior, not us.