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Alistair Begg Doubles Down on Gay Wedding Remarks, Gets the Boot From American Family Radio
Disntr ^ | January 25, 2024 | staff

Posted on 01/26/2024 5:04:10 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Az Joe

Some people sincerely believe that supporting Trump is against their sincerely held religious beliefs.


Many of them openly support Creepy Joe Biden so I don’t value their opinions.


21 posted on 01/26/2024 6:56:37 PM PST by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: Morgana

The interview where he said these things was done last September. I wonder why it took 4 months to come to light?
Begg needs to address this personally and not through his “team”.


22 posted on 01/26/2024 6:57:36 PM PST by uptowngirl
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To: Az Joe
You are claiming facts not in evidence

Your comments in support of Begg by invoking Trump are the evidence. Otherwise there is no point.
23 posted on 01/26/2024 6:58:18 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

You cannot prove what you claimed. You have no evidence at all, none, to support your claim, your unproven claim.


24 posted on 01/26/2024 7:06:39 PM PST by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Morgana

We have regarded attendance at a wedding to be an endorsement of the union.

Not attending certain weddings has created a bit of awkwardness with folks, but we didn’t want to set a bad example.


25 posted on 01/26/2024 7:22:50 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: Morgana

ok. i’m going to make a long and pointed comment on this because it is beginning to hurt my heart. i really love and have learned a lot from Alister Beg, his teaching, preaching and ministry. even today. he was preaching on Isa 41 and it was brilliant. also i know the long and sordid history of christian against christian sectarian violence over theological disagreements.

and oh brother, may God preserve Alister and his ministry. because, this situation strikes as ridiculous. we’re cancelling effective and longstanding ministers of God now, are we, for very small differences? like leftists’ cancel us? imho, this disagreement probably comes all under the umbrella of differences different denominations have out of common with CS Lewis’ Mere Christianity. i can certainly make a Biblical argument from Paul and Romans to support Alister’s advice to in some cases go celebrate with a group of sinners. not that Alisters’ argument would be mine. it would be a specific situation and i would have prayed on it before going, but i could see myself attending such a wedding, under some circumstance.

i believe Alister is still on God’s side, and and that God is continuing to use him mightily. he’s not ‘slipping’ for a long time as i’ve seen in other scurrilous posts against him. and i’m sure he has a Biblical reason for giving his advice to this particular woman. the other thing that might be involved involved is a pastoral relationship under the Holy Spirit that Alister had while ministering to this parishioner.

as a side note, going back a few years to another great Christian minister who was canceled, wrongly in my opinion. i’m glad that at least Alister is still alive to defend himself unlike the christian apologist Ravi Zacharias when the leftists in Christian Inc. decided to smoke him after he passed on to Glory.


26 posted on 01/26/2024 7:28:50 PM PST by dadfly
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To: dadfly

“i believe Alister is still on God’s side”

🙄


27 posted on 01/26/2024 7:31:46 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: MayflowerMadam

:).


28 posted on 01/26/2024 7:39:08 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Az Joe
You cannot prove what you claimed. You have no evidence at all, none, to support your claim, your unproven claim.

Taking the Fifth, it seems to me ...
29 posted on 01/26/2024 7:49:12 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: madison10

I likely know more about this situation than you do. Ravi was indeed slandered, which is heartbreaking.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty. You have proof of the allegations? If not, maybe accept that he was slandered.


30 posted on 01/26/2024 9:03:37 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1997 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Are you?


31 posted on 01/26/2024 9:07:47 PM PST by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Theo

That info should have been put out there. Sad that it was not.


32 posted on 01/26/2024 9:28:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: lgjhn23
Three years later: divorce, but not before they had a little girl thru artificial insemination. These people are insane.

Sorry that you had to be involved in that! Don't know how close you were to your step-daughter (I'm assuming that she was already an adult when you married her mother, which would explain why you were "flabbergasted.")

So your wife is now the grandmother of that little girl. Does she ever come to "Grandma's House" for a visit?

Regards,

33 posted on 01/27/2024 12:49:20 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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“..So your wife is now the grandmother of that little girl. Does she ever come to “Grandma’s House” for a visit?...”

We’re still very close to my step-daughter, but she knows we don’t agree with her lifestyle. Otherwise, she’s a good kid. I service her vehicle whenever it needs it. We’ve assisted her financially all thru nursing school. My wife communicates with her weekly.
As for the little girl, we used to babysit and/or have her visit here quite often and always looked forward to it. She’s a beautiful little girl. We love and miss her so much. I was the only adult male she had in her life. She “adopted” me...LOL. I’d let her sit on my lap and steer my tractor around the back field. She’d try to help me plant seeds the garden. She’d follow me around like a lost puppy dog everywhere I went. We’d just hang out together pretty much the whole time she’d be here. We’d chase each other around the house and play games with her until all three of us were totally worn out. God knew what he was doing when He gave kids to young people...LOL.
Since their divorce, the other woman has now married a man that also has a little girl about the same age. My step-daughter continues in that lifestyle and has lost custody of her. Since the other woman and her husband now have her, we’ve been forbidden to go anywhere near her, let alone have a kind of grandparent relationship with her. It’s heartbreaking but that’s the way it is now days.


34 posted on 01/27/2024 2:53:39 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: Az Joe
Testify as to exactly why you wrote "Some people sincerely believe that supporting Trump is against their sincerely held religious beliefs." and how that relates to Begg advocating attending heretical weddings and bringing gifts to homosexual couples as a good testimony to them.

We have eyes to read and remember John the Baptist.
35 posted on 01/27/2024 3:48:51 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Theo
I likely know more about this situation than you do. Ravi was indeed slandered, which is heartbreaking.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty. You have proof of the allegations? If not, maybe accept that he was slandered.


This is not a court of law. He died and has already been judged by the Righteous Judge. If you are making the claims he did not commit these grave sexual sins while in the ministry, prove the slander you allege. Otherwise, concede. You might also rise to defend the Catholic clergy accused of sexual sins in the ministry to be consistent (Innocent until PROVEN guilty.•).
36 posted on 01/27/2024 4:37:50 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: lgjhn23
My step-daughter continues in that lifestyle and has lost custody of her.

Your narrative is still missing vital clues.

Is the step-daughter the biological mother of the child?

If so: Why / how did she lose custody and even visitation rights?

Regards,

37 posted on 01/27/2024 5:54:09 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: af_vet_1981; Theo
This is not a court of law. [...] If you are making the claims he did not commit these grave sexual sins while in the ministry, prove the slander you allege. Otherwise, concede.

In a simple debate (let alone in a "court of law"), whoever asserts "A" is obliged to prove "A."

It is not incumbent upon the person questioning or disputing a slander to prove that it is false. Rather, it is incumbent upon the slanderer (or anyone else chiming in on that slander, as you - af_vet_1981 - have done) to provide evidence supporting the slanderous assertion.

Your pointing out that this is not a "court of law" is an evasion / distraction. Even in mere polite conversation, this axiom holds.

If, however, Theo indeed possesses "insider info" exonerating Ravi, then we other FReepers would welcome his sharing it.

Regards,

38 posted on 01/27/2024 6:06:51 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

“..Is the step-daughter the biological mother of the child?..”

No. The other woman is. My step-daughter’s egg was artificially inseminated by a voluntary unknown man and implanted into the other woman who then gave birth.
FWIW, there have been a couple of other very similar court cases in the nation that had handed down that custody goes to the birth mother.
Original court arguments were a mess, but in the end, it really boiled down to had the better attorney. Last we heard, she’s gonna try to appeal for at least some better visitation rights than what she has now. Plus, the other woman and her husband have since moved far away. Other than trying to help her out a little bit financially, we’ve stayed out of it.


39 posted on 01/27/2024 8:22:35 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: alexander_busek; Theo
If, however, Theo indeed possesses "insider info" exonerating Ravi, then we other FReepers would welcome his sharing it.

Oh the drama ...
40 posted on 01/27/2024 11:32:19 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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