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Whilst the CDF’s survey was taking place, the Vatican consistently downplayed fears that the Latin Mass would be restricted. But Pope Francis’ claim – that the survey revealed widespread concern about the traditional Mass – has been consistently disputed as not aligning with the facts, or of even inverting the survey’s true result.
1 posted on 01/22/2024 9:29:20 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/22/2024 9:30:08 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

What language was his 2021 document, “Traditionis Custodes”, written in?


3 posted on 01/22/2024 9:33:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (Delusionary people should not be given power over normal people.)
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The traditional Mass used to be looked down upon because it was thought that it was just about "the smells and bells" and was not appreciated for any greater significance.

Now it is banned precisely because those who treasure it, don't merely treasure it for "the smells and bells" but because it represents the official Magisterium of the Church and not the bastardized post Vatican II conciliar church.

Also, how conciliar is a church when it won't reconcile with the traditionalists?

4 posted on 01/22/2024 9:37:49 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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In the areas where I have lived and traveled, the TLM has enjoyed strong support even from bishops who have reputations as unapologetic leftists.

Someone explained to me that there are two simple reasons for this:

1. The TLM communities are flourishing even as these bishops are closing parishes and schools.

2. The TLK communities are very generous with their time and money.

5 posted on 01/22/2024 9:39:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: ebb tide

Over the years, the amount of flak over the authentic, intentional Catholic target of Dogma, Tradition, Liturgy, Music, Teaching, and Praxis is quite telling with the pontificate of Franciscus.


6 posted on 01/22/2024 9:39:43 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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In defense of the unity of the Body of Christ

In light of Fiducia Supplicans, this becomes absolutely laughable. +Francis is perfectly willing to throw unity in the dumpster when it gets in the way.

8 posted on 01/22/2024 9:45:27 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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“The Catholic Church is not the Pope’s Church and Catholics are therefore not papists but Christians”: An Exclusive Interview with Cardinal Gerhard Müller
10 posted on 01/22/2024 9:56:49 AM PST by ebb tide
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According to St. Alphonsus the anti Christ will try to restrict
and destroy the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.


11 posted on 01/22/2024 9:59:51 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant
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According to St. Alphonsus the anti Christ will try to restrict
and destroy the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.


12 posted on 01/22/2024 9:59:51 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant
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Well, Latin Mass is kind of like “Tongues”.

The language of the Holy Spirit that God understands, and the mind of man cannot.


13 posted on 01/22/2024 10:38:34 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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Usurper, anti pope, destroyer, evil in human form. NOT the Pope.


16 posted on 01/22/2024 11:13:00 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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