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My own starting point for thinking about this issue is, what does Scripture say?

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"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men."

Acts 2:22-23.

"And when Peter saw it he addressed the people: “Men of Israel, why do you wonder at this, or why do you stare at us, as though by our own power or piety we have made him walk? The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servant Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him. But you denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, and you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses."

Acts 3:12-15

"Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well."

Acts 4:8-10

"You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it."

Acts 7:51-52

"For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved—so as always to fill up the measure of their sins."

1 Thessalonians 2:14-15.

16 posted on 01/14/2024 9:35:03 AM PST by DSH
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To: DSH

Thanks
Let’s hear from GOD!

Sorry, Jews, God says you did it.


17 posted on 01/14/2024 9:49:09 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: DSH; lightman

......Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.”

Acts 2:22-23........

And what became of these Jews?

....Acts 2:40 And with many other words [Peter] testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this [l]perverse generation.” 41 Then those who [m]gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. 42 And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ [n]doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.....


21 posted on 01/14/2024 10:58:16 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: DSH
My own starting point for thinking about this issue is, what does Scripture say?

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Acts 2:
  1. Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
  2. Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:


  1. God planned for Jesus to die by His own "determinate counsel and foreknowledge."
  2. The Romans were the wicked hands who crucified yet another Jew, but not just another Jew, but the King of the Jews.
  3. What would have happened had more Jews risen up and fought like the Apostle Peter, saving Jesus from the crucifixion ?
  4. Our crime was betraying an innocent Jew to the wicked Gentiles. We all should have stood up for him, and for that and our own wicked deeds, we are guilty.


Something important follows the third quote.


Acts 3:
  1. And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
  2. And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.
  3. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
  4. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
  5. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
  6. Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
  7. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
  8. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
  9. Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
  10. Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
  11. Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

27 posted on 01/14/2024 2:42:15 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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