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Jesus did say HE came to divide, but in so that HE knew men would reject the truth, so instead they would perpetrate a lie to lead many astray. Telling the truth because HE knows the future is one thing, claiming HE is doing it himself is another. A fine line, but one must understand the difference.

As Paul told Herod, I would that all men believed, but Paul knew all men would not, and thus the schism.

Christ called all, and wants all to come to HIM, but knows many will not, because the teachings will be too difficult for many men to accept. In that HE knew divisions would happen, even if HE did not want it to. Recognizing and taking blame are too different things. Knowing the difference comes from understanding that in GOD there is nothing that is evil or wrong. Thus, ultimately it is men's hearts that create the divisions.

So even if GOD condones a schism, HE does so, knowing it is best. It is an example of GOD using what men mean for evil, for HIS glory. Our free will gets in the way, and thus HE will use it for his glory.

I will add something Freeper, PeterPrinciple, once shared with me, which should also be considered.

The point of division is , Who is Jesus? is it not?

That is the point of unification also.

Other points of division such as what color the kitchen walls should be should lead us to “who is Jesus?” and unification, but sadly, it does not.

Scripturally the following speaks.

For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.
(1Corinthians 11:18-19)

There is much to reflect on there. It is not simple. IT is not a prescription which many want. A relationship with God is a wild ride. “Aslan is not a tame lion.”


1 posted on 01/07/2024 11:07:09 AM PST by OneVike
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To: PeterPrinciple

Ping to you.

Used a quote by you.


2 posted on 01/07/2024 11:10:23 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Thank you!


3 posted on 01/07/2024 2:08:21 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: OneVike
And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,  for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the  knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.

Ephesians 4:11-13

5 posted on 01/07/2024 3:36:23 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't match your biography, what good is it?)
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To: OneVike

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

He didn’t say anything about break away if you don’t like something someone said and start a new religion, or tens of thousands of them.


6 posted on 01/07/2024 3:43:23 PM PST by Texas_Guy
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