The Growing Need to Condemn Vatican II’s Errors So We Can Combat Francis’s Heresies

So are you now an Eastern Catholic, Bookman?

Or did you apostatize and join the schismatic Orthodox Church?

No thanks

Rummel was born in 1932 in Cleveland, Ohio, to a family of German descent.
Rummel started out as a democratic socialist

Go ahead and wallow in ignorance.

Just don’t expect me to ignore your penchant for wallowing in ignorance.

It shouldn’t have been mutual.

Retaliation is not an option for Christians, even when self-defense is. Self-defense is not retaliation.

Rummel was born in 1932 in Cleveland, Ohio, to a family of German descent.

Pope Benedict XVI was born to a family of German descent and even served in the Hitler youth.

Was he another of your imagined "antisemites".

I don’t understand how the apostolic successor to the Apostle Peter and Vicar of Christ be morally wrong, especially when he can speak infallably ex cathedra and is choosen by the College of Cardinals through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Certainly makes one wonder how much the magisterium and traditions can be trusted?

And what did the Catholic Church have to with that, Abe?

Actually Abraham is a blessed name, which a genuine Christian would honor. However, antisemitism is poison and a grave sin.

Matthew 7:

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The Reichskonkordat is the most controversial of several concordats that the Vatican negotiated during the pontificate of Pius XI. It is frequently discussed in works that deal with the rise of Hitler in the early 1930s and the Holocaust. The concordat has been described by some as giving moral legitimacy to the Nazi regime soon after Hitler had acquired quasi-dictatorial powers through the Enabling Act of 1933, an Act itself facilitated through the support of the Catholic Centre Party.

The treaty places constraints on the political activity of German clergy of the Catholic Church. With passage of the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, for example, a policy of nonintervention was followed. The majority of the German church hierarchy regarded the treaty as a symbol of peace between church and state.[3] From a Catholic Church perspective it has been argued that the Concordat prevented even greater evils being unleashed against the Church.[4] Though some German bishops were unenthusiastic, and the Allies at the end of World War II felt it inappropriate, Pope Pius XII successfully argued to keep the concordat in force. It is still in force today.

It is the ultimate test. There were six million Jewish victims in the Holocaust and they were the least of Jesus' brethren. It seems to me there is a pandemic of evil sweeping the world in this generation and every soul will be tested.

IMO, that has been happening for years. It became most obvious with the election of obama.

Since then, what with the moral bankruptcy of our culture and society and the evil that is exploding around us, it looks to me like God keeps drawing and redrawing the line in the sand delineating good from and insisting we choose where to stand.

The choice is becoming harder and harder to absolve ourselves of taking responsibility for our choice. With the choices becoming so clear cut, there will absolutely be no excuses on Judgment Day.

You’re resorting now to WickedPedia?

How low can you go?

Pope Benedict XVI was born to a family of German descent and even served in the Hitler youth.

It seems he and his family were not fans.

Ratzinger's family, especially his father, bitterly resented the Nazis, and his father's opposition to Nazism resulted in demotions and harassment of the family.[29] Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth – as membership was required by law for all 14-year-old German boys after March 1939[30] – but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings, according to his brother.[31] In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and murdered during the Aktion T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[32] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer.[31] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry.[33] As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established a headquarters in the Ratzinger household.[34] As a German soldier, he was interned in US prisoner of war camps, first in Neu-Ulm, then at Fliegerhorst Bad Aibling (shortly to be repurposed as Bad Aibling Station) where he was at the time of Victory in Europe

Do you agree with the apostate, Bergoglio, that the Jews need not convert to accept Jesus Christ to be saved?

Pope Francis and the Renunciation of Jewish Conversion

How many Jews were murdered by the Nazis ?

Yet you judged R.J. Rummel with much less facts.

I call “hypocrisy”!

Rather, How many Jews were murdered by Catholics on behalf of the Catholic Church?

Agree, but isn’t it a little late in the day for this? Like about over half a century late?

They’ve lost me forever, would that have happened anyway? Maybe, there’s no way to tell. But absent VCII I expect not.

What’s a shame is that it was all so willful. Look what it led to - the sex abuse scandals, etc.

And now this Argentine idiot!

If you can get it back, I support you entirely. GOOD LUCK!

Most people don’t know what it means to “follow Christ.” But hey, all one has to do is believe, or so I’ve been told.

As I noted before....you have a lot more issues to deal with.

Is an insult only a venial sin? Often it would be. But if the insult is said to anyone with malice, it is an actual mortal sin, no matter how slightly worded. Malice is always objectively grave, as it is incompatible with the state of grace, which is the state of loving God and neighbor. When chosen with full knowledge and full consent of the will, it is an actual mortal sin.

What you should be concerned about is your own soul.
Remember Haman. Flee antisemitism.

Esther 6:13
And Haman told Zeresh his wife and all his friends every thing that had befallen him. Then said his wise men and Zeresh his wife unto him, If Mordecai be of the seed of the Jews, before whom thou hast begun to fall, thou shalt not prevail against him, but shalt surely fall before him.

Ezekiel 36:

Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.
And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.
And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be inquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

The Church and non-Christians

839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People.

When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ",328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

840 And when one considers the future, God's People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.

If you can get it back, I support you entirely. GOOD LUCK!

Thanks, but it has never left. Throughout history, at various times, there has always been a remnant Church.

——>Throughout history, at various times, there has always been a remnant Church.

Yeah, this one...

Revelation 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.