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To: ealgeone

First of all, there were many irregularities in his election. Maybe this will get some of the cardinals to stand up and demand another look.

But even so, the Pope is only to be followed when his “teachings” are in line with the traditional and perpetual magisterium of the Church..that is the accumulated orthodox teachings of 2000 years.

His are not, but the way he’s always gotten around it has been to set things up so that somebody else actually issues the letter or makes the statement…which he has all along been encouraging. He’s an evil man who has made his career by manipulating and using others to achieve his evil goals.

Maybe this will finally make the bishops do something other than grumble quietly. This is going to put them in a terrible position, and if they’re not orthodox and don’t care themselves, it’s going to out their priests in a terrible position.

Weirdly enough I think this has been Francis’ goal all along. I suspect he thinks he’s getting near the end and he wants to burn it all down before he goes.


53 posted on 12/18/2023 7:19:26 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
But even so, the Pope is only to be followed when his “teachings” are in line with the traditional and perpetual magisterium of the Church..that is the accumulated orthodox teachings of 2000 years.

The papacy had been accumulating more and more power over the years. Unam Sanctam is the culmination of that attempted power grab.

And for the ordinary Roman Catholic to attempt to sort out what is the "traditional and perpetual magisterium of the Church" is a stretch as the majority of Roman Catholics I've encountered on these forums don't know what their denomination teaches in many aspects.

Urban II promised forgiveness of sins for those who died in battle during the Crusades. Roman Catholic jihad in sense.

There is nothing Scriptural about what he did.

As far as removing him, neither the bishops nor the college of cardinals, nor anyone else can remove him legally per Roman Catholic canon law. Though I have seen some comments that have been removed on other ways to remove him. I can only imagine the outcry if a non-RC has posted that. I'm glad the comments were removed.

The papacy has insulated itself from these kinds of actions.

57 posted on 12/18/2023 7:34:43 PM PST by ealgeone
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