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1 posted on 12/11/2023 10:56:17 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Um, really, what’s the point of this post?


2 posted on 12/11/2023 10:58:15 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Morgana

Yea, that’s so much worse than Catholic Priests routinely raping young boys, right Morgana!


3 posted on 12/11/2023 10:59:13 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Morgana

My hope is that she found Christianity.


6 posted on 12/11/2023 11:01:50 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Morgana

i believe it! “always blame the woman” is a theme with alot of folks and their religious beliefs/old fashioned way of thinking.


20 posted on 12/11/2023 11:22:03 AM PST by ronniesgal (The bidens are actually more white trashy than the Clintons, and that's sayin' something)
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To: Morgana
I actually bothered to read the article.

'Essentially, just to sum it up, I decided to go to a party and obviously had no idea about alcohol and the way that it altered your body,' Kristjana said. 'I got to a point where I was blackout drunk - couldn't even stand up or open my eyes ...

Hmmmmm ... Normally, I'd say that people who choose to get drunk are responsible for what they do and what happens to them when they're drunk. But someone who has no clue ... none whatsoever ... of the effects of alcohol consumption?

Folks, let's be careful out there. And raise your children well. That includes not sheltering them too much from the wretched side of life. I see people here throwing rocks at mormonism, largely because it's fashionable to do on this forum. Excessively sheltering children from the wretched side of life is not exclusive to mormonism.

24 posted on 12/11/2023 11:29:59 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Morgana

If she was a muzzie, she’d already be dead.


32 posted on 12/11/2023 11:41:29 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Morgana

If the remedy is only repentance, then the price is cheap


35 posted on 12/11/2023 11:51:17 AM PST by californian by choice
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To: Morgana
I'm no expert, but I thought Mormons were given a choice when they come of age: to remain in the community and accept its rules, or go out into the wide world and live as they do.
Some go out and then repent and come back, but very few, and surely not with an illegitimate child.
I know, blackout drunk and all that. It's tragic, but when you make bad choices...
40 posted on 12/11/2023 12:24:34 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Nothing in story says this “gang-rape” was reported to any police agency. No report. No arrest. No conviction. No date, time, place. No names, not of her accused or anyone else at the scene. No hospitalization or medical treatment. No corroboration by parents, friends, witnesses. Except for her claims, there is no evidence of her claims. Not even somehow missing and never produced ‘psychiatrist’s notes’ like they used against Kavanaugh.

And no, I just don’t “believe her”. Same people insist chicks with d*cks are real women that menstruate despite the reality before them. Similarly, a damning accusation of an almost impossible to conceal and very publicly committed crime by a 33 year old woman against unnamed men without a shred of evidence anything even happened 15-20 years ago [article doesn’t say], carries no weight.

FBI stats show 30-40% of rape accusations are false. One out of three. I’d wager only those accused and conclusively exonerated are included in the false claim category and the real false claim rate is even higher. And remember, “rape” now includes “I didn’t feel raped until he didn’t call back the next day” claims.

Forceful, punched in the face/knife to the throat rapes are exceedingly rare by Westerners [no so much with those hailing from Arab/African/South of Border, and other backward lands]

It is at least as likely she engaged in pre-marital sex willingly/used alcohol as her ‘get into bed free’ card, got remorseful, made up a story to evade punishment for violating every tenant held by her community and her own guilty conscience, got brainwashed into believing she’s a ‘victim’ of her choices, and here we are. And her wildly unlikely claims are repeated by major newspapers who didn’t ask/answer any of the questions above.


44 posted on 12/11/2023 12:39:41 PM PST by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: Morgana

Don’t the Mormons have magic underwear for girls and women?


47 posted on 12/11/2023 12:57:55 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Morgana

I’ve known men who loved to date mormon girls. It seems that in their religion, the man can have as many “wives” as he can get.
In their version of the Resurrection he will call his “wives” or girls sealed to him out of their graves, fly off to an uninhabited planet where he will begin to have sex with all his wives making “spirit babies” to inhabit real bodies.
Since he will be having all that sex in the afterlife the girls have decided to get as much as they can in THIS life.


50 posted on 12/11/2023 1:43:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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"You don't want to lay horizontal with somebody because that will immediately lead to sex actions, which is awful."

Reminds me of an old joke. “Why do Baptists discourage having sex standing up?” “It could lead to dancing”
52 posted on 12/11/2023 1:59:53 PM PST by rickomatic
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Her family most certainly knew that she did not rape herself. But they would have been right to blame her for not trusting them, getting drunk, and putting herself into a position where anyone could take advantage of her.


54 posted on 12/11/2023 2:36:19 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Morgana

I know Mormons can’t drink coffee, so can they drink booze? If not, why did she get drunk?


55 posted on 12/11/2023 2:57:22 PM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Morgana
"You don't want to lay horizontal with somebody because that will immediately lead to sex actions, which is awful."

'Essentially, just to sum it up, I decided to go to a party and obviously had no idea about alcohol and the way that it altered your body,' Kristjana said.

So her problem was that of rejecting authority to do her own thing. And I doubt she had no idea about alcohol affecting her judgment. Eve was not told all the details of what her sin would entail, but that she would die, which was sufficient, though Mormonic leaders are far from being God. Kristjana added: 'If your gut and your inner knowing feels like something is off or not right, listen because it never leads you astray ever.'

Which means avoid Mormonism and other false gospels, versus that of Scripture.

The redeemed are those who come to God as sinners knowing their desperate need of salvation - not as souls saved by their works or religious heritage, but as destitute of any means or merit whereby they may find salvation - and with a humble and penitent heart (that at least implicitly wants a new life following Christ) believe on the crucified and risen Lord Jesus who alone can save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood and righteousness. (Romans 3:9 - 5:1) And who are thus baptized to follow the Lord Jesus with persevering faith.
And who thus are baptized and follow Him (John 10:27-29; Acts 8:12; Ephesians 1:7; 2:8-10) - and effectually repent when they find that they failed to do so. (Psalms 32:5, 6; 51:3; Hosea 5:15; 1 John 1:9) For penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) is that which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) and by which faith the believer is completely forgiven and "accepted in the Beloved" and positionally seated with Him in Heaven. Ephesians 1:6; 2:6; cf. Phil. 3:21)
And wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for those who die in that effectual faith then it is with the Lord, at death or His return (whatever comes first), by the grace of God. (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) Thanks be to God.

63 posted on 12/11/2023 9:01:24 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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1. The family’s version of the story is not being told in their own words— so as to make them appear as anti-female as possible.

2. There are two sepearte issues that feminist politicians don’t want to separate:

— Should the rapists be punished? Of course. Severely.

— Why didn’t this foolish woman listen to her parents teaching and stay away from over-sexed men? Her morally compass was pointing in the wrong direction


70 posted on 12/12/2023 6:23:52 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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