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To: Philsworld
Matthew 21:43Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
44He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.


second pers. sing. pers. pronoun

Jesus was addressing "the chief priests and the elders of the people" not the nation of Israel, which endures forever.

The kingdom of God (authority) would be taken from "you, singular" (perhaps looking the Chief/High Priest in the eye ?) and given to Gentiles, who otherwise were excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, not replacing Israel as the Apostle of the Gentiles taught the Gentiles who believe.

Ephesians 2:

[11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:


Romans 11:

[25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
[29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.


, "them" (Israelites, sons of Jacob, House of Israel and House of Judah)

God's promises and love for Israel is eternal, as long as the the ordinances of heaven and earth last (Jeremiah), and even when those eventually fall, even so His love for Israel endures (Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.) and the Gentiles who are genuine Christians, who love the Jews, will rejoice; the others will be ashamed.

Matthew 24:
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

[36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

81 posted on 12/02/2023 9:56:18 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

——>Jesus was addressing “the chief priests and the elders of the people” not the nation of Israel, which endures forever.

Certainly not.

My proof is here, in this video. But by all means, please keep reading.

https://youtu.be/4WvoacGLePI

Notice this: Matthew 21:43Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a PEOPLE who will produce its fruit.

Addressed to the LEADERS of literal Israel...taken away from literal Israel, and then given to A PEOPLE WHO WILL PRODUCE ITS FRUIT, the Gentiles.

Daniel’s 70 week prophecy gave literal Israel 490 years to repent. That ended AT EXACTLY 3.5 years after Christ was crucified. The Gospel FIRST went to the Jews, literal Israel until the final straw, the stoning of Stephen and the leaders absolute refusal to repent and accept Christ as their Messiah. The Gospel then went to the Gentiles.

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/dan927.htm

Dan 9:24

This verse sets the goals of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel.

(A) “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,”

- This sets the time period at 70 weeks. It is generally accepted here that you must use the day = year prophecy formula (Num 14:34, Ezek 4:6), yielding a time period of 490 years from start to completion.

- The word determined here actually means “cut off”. This 70 weeks are cut off from, or begin at the same time as, the larger 2300 day (year) prophecy of Dan 8:14, which has as it’s focus the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven, the beginning of Judgment. So both the 70 week (490 year) and the 2300 day (year) prophecy begin at the same date. Note that you can not arbitrarily apply the year for a day principle in one case and not another, you must remain consistent. Dan 8:26 strongly hints that the 2300 day prophecy in verse 14 is not just 2300 days, but many days more than it literally indicates. This would also support using year instead of day.

(B) “to finish the transgression (rebellion),”

- Meaning to the Jews: end your transgression of (rebellion against) God’s Law and return to obedience.
- Alludes to the victory of Jesus Christ over transgression at the cross.

(C) “and to make an end of sins,”

- Meaning to the Jews: repent from sin.
- Alludes to the victory of Jesus Christ over sin at the cross.

(D) “and to make reconciliation for iniquity,”

- Meaning to the Jews: Atonement for sins through sacrificial temple ceremonies (symbolic of Jesus).
- Alludes to the reconciliation for iniquity by Jesus Christ at the cross.

(E) “and to bring in everlasting righteousness,”

- Alludes to the death of Jesus the Messiah at the cross making everlasting righteousness available to all with faith. Without His death at the cross we are all condemned to the second death. By His death on the cross, the requirement of the Law was met and His everlasting righteousness established. Psa 119:142

(F) “and to seal up the vision and prophecy,”

- To fulfill / complete the prophesies of the 70 weeks (the dates of Messiah’s / Jesus’ baptism and crucifixion). Because Daniel predicted these historical events of the 70 weeks with absolute accuracy, we can also trust that the 2300 day (year) prophecy is just as accurate.

(G) “and to anoint the most Holy.”

- As the earthly temple was anointed in Lev 8:10-11, so the heavenly temple was anointed by Jesus as he assumed the role of our High Priest, on his return to heaven. Also, Jesus himself was anointed as the Messiah at His Baptism (Mat 3:16, Mark 1:9, Luke 3:21).

So verse 24 has set the goals of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel. The twofold focus of the prophecy: first on the Jews reconciling themselves with God within the appointed time (490 years), and second, Jesus being baptized and paying the price of sin at the cross for us and becoming our High Priest. Note that there is nothing in verse 24 referring to the millennial kingdom, or the antichrist, or a seven year tribulation and there is nothing to indicate the 490 years are anything but a continuous period of time that ended in 34 A.D.


82 posted on 12/03/2023 4:34:48 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: af_vet_1981
---->Jesus was addressing "the chief priests and the elders of the people" NOT THE NATION OF ISRAEL, which endures forever.

The question is “what/who is Israel?”

LITERAL Israel and it’s vinedressers, the Jewish leadership

SPIRITUAL Israel, and it’s vinedressers, the Christian church, those in Christ Jesus

Earthly literal Israel and the Jewish nation are finished, forever. (literal nation of Israel, CORPORATE JEWISH NATION)

There is no more a LITERAL nation of Israel, ruled by Jewish leadership.

(Nation: a country considered as a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular area or territory:)

The following was written by Pastor Stephen Bohr (same guy from the video).

Israel as a Vineyard

Matthew 21:33-46:

"Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner [God the Father] who planted a vineyard [Israel] and set a hedge around it [the law], dug a winepress in it and built a tower [the temple]. And he leased it to vinedressers [the Jewish leaders] and went into a far country [heaven].

34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers [before the Babylonian captivity], that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another [what they did to the prophets].

36 Again he sent other servants [after the captivity until John the Baptist], more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son [Jesus] to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.' 38 "But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir. Come, let us kill him [the death of Christ] and seize his inheritance.' 39 "So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard [Jesus died outside of Jerusalem] and killed him. 40 Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?" 41 They said to Him, "He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers [the Gentiles] who will render to him the fruits in their seasons." 42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: 'The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone. This was the LORD's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?

43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you [THE KINGDOM NO LONGER BELONGS TO LITERAL ISRAEL] and given to a nation [ethne] BEARING THE FRUITS OF IT. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder." 45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they perceived that He was speaking of them.”

Matthew 3:8, 10: John called upon God’s people TO BEAR FRUIT that flows from repentance, that is, to live a sanctified life:

“Therefore BEAR FRUITS worthy of repentance, and do not think to say to yourselves: 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not BEAR GOOD FRUIT is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

John 15:8: “By this My Father is glorified, THAT YOU BEAR MUCH FRUIT; so you will be My disciples.”

The Guiding Principle: When we are dealing with literal Israel we deal with a literal person on a local stage. When we are dealing with spiritual Israel we are dealing with a movement of people on a worldwide scale.

Some Very Important Conclusions If God’s true Israel today is not the literal Jewish nation and if Israel is to be understood as spiritual and worldwide, then those who are looking to the Middle East for the fulfillment of Bible prophecy setting themselves up for a great deception. The final war will not be fought between the Arabs and the Jews but rather between those who have truly accepted Jesus and those who have not. This must mean that all the ‘Jewish language’ of the book of Revelation must be interpreted as applying to the Church on a global scale. The final war against the remnant of the woman’s Seed will be a worldwide war against the remnant of Jesus.

93 posted on 12/04/2023 5:10:34 PM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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