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1 posted on 11/16/2023 6:30:57 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 11/16/2023 6:31:48 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Religion is free and personal and doesn’t require a church or any clergy.


3 posted on 11/16/2023 6:42:10 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 NASBS
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, [4] and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.


5 posted on 11/16/2023 6:52:09 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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Mark


8 posted on 11/16/2023 7:02:04 PM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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Isn’t it great how the Catholic Church can do all this criminal stuff and escape legal consequences? I mean, RICO statutes (Federal and state) seem to be like a handful of sawdust to the Pope’s dupes.
A truly great Man once said, “By their fruits you will know them.”
To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, “A house full of termites can not stand.”


10 posted on 11/16/2023 7:17:22 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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I’ve shared this story before, here, but it’s been a while....Full disclosure: I grew up Catholic but am no longer, and the following true story is one of the main reasons why.

Way back when I was in high school, I had a friend named Greg. He was an avowed homosexual (yes, they existed back then - and yes, we still got along with him. If someone accused me of hanging out with a ****sucker, I’d just say that he never tried to suck mine).

Greg was a nice guy and a decent friend, but he had a priesthood fetish. Somehow he acquired priestly robes and some of the doodads that Catholic priests use during Mass. He would practice doing priest stuff at home. Why? Because he was determined to become a priest. He said it was the perfect cover for a homosexual man. He said that seminary would be one long, unsupervised homosexual orgy, and then nobody would question why he wasn’t married or ever hung out with girls.

I lost track of Greg after high school, but I did hear that he achieved his ambition. Never knew if he was one of those that preyed on young boys - when the lists came out of known sexual predator priests I searched but never found his name.
This is just one sample - I’m sure there are many more.

THE RC Church turned a blind eye to the issue because 1. They needed butts in the pulpits and 2. Many of the hierarchy were just like Greg. I can’t see how the Church as a whole can bear an effective witness for Christ when so many of its leaders are unrepentant sinners. Good individuals can be effective witnesses, but the Church as a whole lacks credibility.


18 posted on 11/16/2023 7:42:47 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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Its been that way for over 50 years. My older brother went into the seminary in 1965 to become a priest. Left after 18 months and said the place was full of gays and pedos that were there specifically to have trusted access to kids and nobody had the slightest interest in changing it. Now they are all in power, so what do you expect? Burn it down.


28 posted on 11/16/2023 8:04:57 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus chose Twelve Apostles.

One betrayed Him, one denied him three times before the cock crowed, and the rest all fled in terror when he was arrested.

So I guess let’s just call the whole thing off. I mean, Christ only died for Saints, right?


33 posted on 11/16/2023 8:22:48 PM PST by moonhawk (Unleash the MAGAhideen!)
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Priests

I found this online. It doesn't mention the source, but since Francis, less than 18% of new priests consider themselves even somewhat "progressive."

There is hope for the future

35 posted on 11/16/2023 8:27:21 PM PST by PGR88
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I would assert that Catholicism is the true faith for lots of reasons, some are here:

It has confession and absolution for people so that they would not be driven mad by their sins, nor be mistaken about what constitutes a sin in their case.

Because it draws hatred and ridicule way out of proportion to the typical religion bashing by heathens, especially gays and those in Hollywood.

It emphasizes the most important commandments, among them Mass and the Eucharist, which are very condensed remembrances of what Jesus did while on earth. They are done very formally in fulfillment of his strict commandment at the Last Supper -- every word in the Mass refers to scripture related to Him, especially the New Testament, and the ceremony has been perfected over 1700 years, recent abuses of it notwithstanding.

The Real Presence of God at the Mass in the form of the Eucharist.

IMHO.

60 posted on 11/17/2023 6:36:05 AM PST by caddie
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Arguably the biggest scandal of our lifetime. The only thing close is the total and complete corruption of the U.S. government agencies.


65 posted on 11/17/2023 8:27:16 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Prayers for Holy Mother Church.


67 posted on 11/17/2023 8:41:22 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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