Posted on 11/13/2023 9:37:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There you go again - using Scripture to prove your point.
ALL of them?
...but it’s different when they do it or something like that?
See how all of the Catholics have climbed up on the roof to proclaim Catholicism as the ONLY way to heaven.
'When I tell you what imagery found in Scripture REALLY means,' the magnificant Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather superior tone, ' it means just whomever I choose it to mean, neither more nor less; but sometimes two or more different things at once.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can define imagery to mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, C.SS.R, S.S.L., O.F.M, S.T.D 'which is to be master - that's all.' |
He ain’t ALL bad.
You mean like we were when Francis first got elected and we were warning Catholics about him?
I admire your love of Christ and Knowledge of His Word.
But all the intricacies of your explanation, with questions about which language the Holy Spirit chose and confusion about stone and rock, reinforce my belief that there is an inherent flaw in “Sola Scriptura.” Namely, that all these debates have led to tens of thousands of “Christian” sects, denominations, and even cults, claiming to base their faith entirely on Scripture, with the aid of the Holy Spirit.
But if the Holy Spirit is leading all these apparently sincere believers to believe what they believe, shy don’t they all believe the same things?
“Not all have the gift of the interpretation of Scripture.” Today’s disunity of Christ’s Body is testament to that.
Wouldn’t Jesus prefer if His Church was One, as He so often prayed? And if he wanted One Church, would he not establish it so that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it?
And would not that Church, holding the keys to the Kingdom, and the power to bind and loose, be the one to whom he sent the Paraclete to show them all Truth, so that there would be a Unity of understanding of those Scriptures? On the road to Emmaus, he didn’t read the scriptures to the disciples, He explained them to them.
They all knew the words perfectly well, but He had to open their eyes to the meaning(s). Today, many believers know the scriptures very well, far better than a sinner like me does. But I spent years looking for the Truth and who could explain the Scriptures to me. I have had more than one personal encounter with Jesus, but there were so many permutations of the faith that I never found fellowship I could be comfortable with.
It finally dawned on me (was revealed) that there could only be on Church, one teaching Authority, and one faith, as God Himself is One, and as Jesus commanded us to be one. There is only one candidate for that institution, which can trace it’s succession all the way back to the Apostles.
I pray daily for the Unity of the Body of Christ. May we all come back together soon in these perilous times.
It is an amazing time to be alive, is it not?
The problem with the appeal to what was handed down is Rome cannot legitimately make that claim as they’ve departed from Scripture on so many issues. The Marian dogmas being among the biggest departure.
OTOH...
My belief is that there is an inherent flaw in "Tradition; too!” Namely, that all POWER supposedly rests with ROME, claiming to base it's teachings entirely on Scripture, with the aid of a bunch of men voting, who were theoretically led by the Holy Spirit.
Who; from the evidence (seven churches in Asia); did not do a very good job.
Why even apparitions have to come from Heaven(?) to fill in more of the blanks.
“This scapular is not like others [it is not based on a religious habit] but merely two holy images on a single piece of material. Therefore, no special formula is required to bless it or enroll someone in its use. It suffices that it be blessed by a Catholic priest and worn by the one whom we desire to benefit by Our Lady’s intercession. If, on the other hand, the person is unable, or even unwilling, to wear it or carry it, it may even be slipped, unknown to them, into their clothes, possessions, home or work environments, etc."
And there are some on these threads who wear that man-made idol and trust in it rather than the promises of Christ. This is but one reason Christians condemn Roman Catholicism.
I object!
Just because he is Catholic, doesn’t mean he is lost.
There was no mention of repentance or profession of faith in a Christ. But as Rome has added to the Gospel, which means it’s a false Gospel, he’s joined the wrong denomination.
That’s so sad. She looks sad, doesn’t she?
Very sad.
Are those miracle tears?
But it’s so sad.
And recall, prior to Vatican 2 Rome maintained those not a member of the RCC were considered heretics.
I don’t know what’s in his heart (neither do you).
A missing testimony doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
It’s best not to judge the salvation of someone else. But it’s okay to examine ourselves.
I say all that in the context of the individual - not Roman Catholicism - THAT we may judge freely because it is contrary to God’s plan of salvation.
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