Paul Kengor is an outstanding scholar and researcher. His book, “The Devil and Karl Marx”, should be required reading for every high-school junior and senior, and every undergraduate and post-graduate student. Annually.
There is a reason marxism, and its fraternal twin, fascism, stink up the world.
bill bannon says: February 27, 2009 at 9:33 pm...
Slavery was implicitly supported in Trent's catechism...read carefully the text on "other forms of stealing" as to the 7th commandment...it was supported in most major theologians until 1960 (Tommaso Iorio's 5th edition of Theologia Moralis 1960 and that was preceded by Merkelbach in 1936 and Vermeesch in 1904 and by St.Thomas in the Supplement to the ST in the section on marriage of a slave wherein Aquinas gives the cites for the decretals (canon law) supporting the slavery of a child born to a slave). And in every century a majority of theologians in the schools supported 4 just titles to slavery and birth to a slave was almost always included and now is banned by Vatican II's authroity.
Shane says: February 28, 2009 at 9:27 am
... Chattle slavery is what the Church condemns as intrinsically evil; penal slavery (and other forms such as serfdom) has been permitted by the Church....
bill bannon says: February 28, 2009 at 10:55 amShane, You are hiding in logic-speak because history detail totally refutes you. You wrote: “Chattle slavery is what the Church condemns as intrinsically evil..”...
...your mistake is just what I noted. One Pope out of 265 Popes condemns slavery as intrinsically evil in the ordinary magisterium and you call it Church Teaching without ever using your own brain to see if he might have overstepped in his late years... and you are prepared to throw God Himself and His estimation of slavery overboard. The Prots are not 100% wrong when they fault us for Pope worship. You just did it.Your thoughts on torture and saving Pope Leo X's reputation from an obvious cruel belief is absolutely the same syndrome.
I think you are important to the Church but you will spoil it if you think flattering Her when She really needs the opposite from you is the thing to do. Paul confronted Peter in Galatians and Peter grew....the Church now has no one with Paul's truthfulness.
The list of bulls against slavery occurred over a time span that included 44 Popes but only about 7 of them denounced slavery of sorts....one was against slavery in the Canaries but only of baptized natives....the next one by Paul III was against the enslavement of the Caribbean natives but not against that of blacks....another was against the trade, but not against the domestic slavery of blacks born to slave mothers and held by religious orders into the 19th century, with [the] Bishop [of] England who knew the Pope [was][ writing for domestic slavery after the bull and not being gainsaid by the Pope. The most complete one was finally at the end of the 19th century by a Pope...Leo XIII this time... who claimed that the Church was the great liberator from slavery, and he gave a papal list which left out the six Popes from 1452 til 1511 who literally turbocharged the slavery by Spain and Portugal that involved millions. And you can easily research the first words of that chain by going to Romanus Pontifex on line by Pope Nicholas V and go to the middle of the 4th paragraph. In the OT flattery was a sin. Why does no one say that anymore? Because Church speak is floating in it.
Slavery was implicitly supported in Trent's catechism...read carefully the text on "other forms of stealing" as to the 7th commandment...it was supported in most major theologians until 1960 (Tommaso Iorio's 5th edition of Theologia Moralis 1960 and that was preceded by Merkelbach in 1936 and Vermeesch in 1904 and by St.Thomas in the Supplement to the ST in the section on marriage of a slave wherein Aquinas gives the cites for the decretals (canon law) supporting the slavery of a child born to a slave). And in every century a majority of theologians in the schools supported 4 just titles to slavery and birth to a slave was almost always included and now is banned by Vatican II's authroity. — http://www.jimmyakin.org/2009/02/soups-reredux.html
This sounds like something our buddy ebb tide would post!