Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The big bang—Science or science fiction? Scientific American Article Makes Some Fascinating Observations
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 9/23 | Jim Mason

Posted on 09/12/2023 1:25:19 AM PDT by spirited irish

Behind the numerous popular descriptions of the big bang, there is an elaborate mathematical edifice. The article calls it a “conceptual framework” upon which “floor upon floor has been added intact”. There is a story being told with this mathematics. However, is this story history based firmly on (observational, experimental) science, or is it largely a historical novel with elements of science fiction?

The SciAm article strongly suggests that it is the latter—a novel. It is based on an assumed history and is loosely grounded with elements of real science. But there is also lots of science fiction, including, as will be seen, the equivalents of the mythical dilithium crystals, warp drive, and cloaking fields from Star Trek

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotandliberty.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: bigbangfraud
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last

1 posted on 09/12/2023 1:25:19 AM PDT by spirited irish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: sphinx; grcuster; Jonty30; Nervous Tick; reviled downesdad; sauropod; metmom; ViLaLuz; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/12/2023 1:27:18 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

Lol asked and answered. It was kicked off by Charles Lyell with one goal. It was not a scientific one.


3 posted on 09/12/2023 2:07:49 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

I always thought the Big Bang theory was an attempt to answer a question that has no answer with current scientific knowledge

What if the answer is a supreme being aka God created everything


4 posted on 09/12/2023 2:22:00 AM PDT by srmanuel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: momincombatboots; srmanuel
What if the answer is a supreme being aka God created everything

That Jesus Christ is Who He said He is scares them and they refuse to allow His existence. But such folly, for they will stand before Him in judgment nevertheless.

5 posted on 09/12/2023 2:33:35 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish
I'll tell you what's a novel...Evolution.

Even with our exquisite knowledge of DNA, RNA, proteins, membranes, etc., all building up to the machinery of the cell and of reproduction... there is no convincing evidence of one species, even of viruses or bacterium, 'evolving' into another species.

6 posted on 09/12/2023 3:10:36 AM PDT by caddie (We must all become Trump, starting now!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caddie
I'll tell you what's a novel...Evolution.

If evolution is science, it's not empirical but occult science as it is an unseen energy working on unseen matter in an unseen dimension. From ancient times, this energy was worshipped as serpent power.

No one has ever seen, heard, felt, or in any way sensed evolution (serpent power) yet its worshippers would have us accept it as empirical science.

7 posted on 09/12/2023 3:18:11 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

Just my opinion, even if the big bang were true, what created the elements within the big bang, why did it happen when it did, etc...

What I’m saying, no matter how the universe began, there will be questions that can’t be answered, unless you believe in some type of Supreme Being, I choose to believe in God and Jesus Christ.

It’s like the talk coming from the scientists working on the James Webb Space Telescope, how we are seeing to the end of the universe, my response is how do we know that, what is beyond our current ability to see into the past, if it’s the end of the universe, what is that like, is there a barrier, etc...

The concept of infinity is a concept that can’t be understood unless you fall back to the belief in a Supreme Being.


8 posted on 09/12/2023 3:18:52 AM PDT by srmanuel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

God can do whatever God wants ……


9 posted on 09/12/2023 3:26:03 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

Little e evolution happens. Plants and animals adapt to their surroundings. The fit prosper, the unfit die off. Big E Evolution? Maybe not so much.


10 posted on 09/12/2023 3:48:58 AM PDT by steve8714 (Evidently the Oxford comma is racist, sexist, or homophobic. You decide which.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish
is it largely a historical novel with elements of science fiction?

Nicely put.

11 posted on 09/12/2023 3:52:04 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish
I think it was Neils Bohr who said, ‘...we can do physics all day long but in the end we reach the limit of our knowledge and the limit of discernible facts...’

Then we are all doing philosophy.

So far, I think his observation has not been challenged.

12 posted on 09/12/2023 5:20:07 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caddie
"Even with our exquisite knowledge of DNA, RNA, proteins, membranes, etc., all building up to the machinery of the cell and of reproduction... there is no convincing evidence of one species, even of viruses or bacterium, 'evolving' into another species."

This is actually quite well established, and truth to tell, it is a testament to the natural order that is can regulate and adapt itself in this way.

I don't know how you define 'convincing', but this explains it fairly well.

13 posted on 09/12/2023 6:25:08 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish
The 'Big Bang' is the best theory we have at the moment. And it is but a 'theory'

The best part of the standard model is that, interpreted one way, given the physics we currently understand and all the isotropic equalities that are maintained therein, that everything that exists is simply a different expression of nothing at all.

It is an appropriate irony for this world that the more we drill down to the ultimate nature of 'what is real', the more unreal it becomes.

14 posted on 09/12/2023 6:29:25 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: srmanuel

I’ll take the big bang theory(which I don’t believe) over a mythical tale 100,000 times over..


15 posted on 09/12/2023 6:39:36 AM PDT by sit-rep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sit-rep

That’s fine, it’s not my mission to tell anyone what to believe when it comes to religion or God.

I choose to believe, you choose what you believe and makes you comfortable.


16 posted on 09/12/2023 7:07:53 AM PDT by srmanuel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: spirited irish

I’ll trust in the Creator. One day we’ll have better knowledge of how the universe was created.


17 posted on 09/12/2023 8:04:23 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower

That is not convincing.
For starters, it does not deal with the beginning.


18 posted on 09/12/2023 8:40:27 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower

That article states the evolution narrative. It does not demonstrate the narrative is true. Big difference.


19 posted on 09/12/2023 8:41:15 AM PDT by Tom in SFCA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: sit-rep
I’ll take the big bang theory(which I don’t believe) over a mythical tale 100,000 times over..

Most Americans prefer science over myth. But the question is whether the Bible is mythical or true? Simply stating it's mythical and thinking that proves something is unscientific.

20 posted on 09/12/2023 8:45:32 AM PDT by Tom in SFCA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson