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At the end of the day, I fear the Roman church has painted itself into a corner. It lives and dies by the pope, and as soon as a pope declares infallibly that gay marriage is ordained by God, then Ebb Tide and others have no defense against heresy. That day will come, most assuredly. However, the Bible stands as an eternal bulwark of truth, and it will always offer a truly unchanging standard.


168 posted on 09/11/2023 5:13:43 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
At the end of the day, I fear the Roman church has painted itself into a corner. It lives and dies by the pope, and as soon as a pope declares infallibly that gay marriage is ordained by God, then Ebb Tide and others have no defense against heresy. That day will come, most assuredly. However, the Bible stands as an eternal bulwark of truth, and it will always offer a truly unchanging standard.

I'd argue also that Rome has done the same with its Marian dogmas which contradict inspired Scripture.

Rome has allowed, and encouraged, its followers to wear a scapular in hopes of avoiding the hell-fire.

Imagine trusting your eternal destination to a man-made piece of cloth an apparition told you to wear vs faith in Christ...and only Christ.

178 posted on 09/11/2023 5:42:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
It lives and dies by the pope...

But...

there is a CURE for that!


 The 15 promises
(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

 

1Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2.I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3.The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4.It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5.The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6.Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7.Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8.Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9.I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10.The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11.You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12.All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13.I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14.All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15.Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

 

 

254 posted on 09/12/2023 5:16:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick; ebb tide
At the end of the day, I fear the Roman church has painted itself into a corner. It lives and dies by the pope, and as soon as a pope declares infallibly that gay marriage is ordained by God, then Ebb Tide and others have no defense against heresy

As liberal as Francis is, I doubt very much that he would go that far, or even declare anything infallibly, except perhaps that combating Climate Change was a solemn responsibility. But as related to this, and as regards doctrine and which relates to this thread, Ebb Tide is way ahead of you in this, since he already has declared that while Pope Pius XI was a Catholic yet Francis (Bergoglio) is not a Catholic, but one who preaches and authors heresy, being a material and formal heretic, who is part of a schism, in a Church that has already shut itself up since VCII and no longer proclaims Christ the Sovereign King, to all nations, nor does it preach "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus." Thus ET, who will never give VCII a pass, and posted that the Ecumenical Mass of Bergoglio is straight out of Hell. But he defends the Catholic Church as being the Bride of Christ for it is not the papacy of Bergoglio. If I was still lost as a RC with her false gospel, then I would likely be a TradCath also. May God grant them “repentance to the acknowledging of the truth.” (2 Timothy 2:25)

273 posted on 09/12/2023 8:38:07 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
At the end of the day, I fear the Roman church has painted itself into a corner. It lives and dies by the pope, and as soon as a pope declares infallibly that gay marriage is ordained by God, then Ebb Tide and others have no defense against heresy. That day will come, most assuredly. However, the Bible stands as an eternal bulwark of truth, and it will always offer a truly unchanging standard.

And Mary. Take Mary out of their religion and there's almost nothing left.

287 posted on 09/12/2023 11:09:05 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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