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ELCA Pastors Who Run ‘Chaotic Bisexuals’ Bible Study: ‘Jesus died for our sins’ is not the best way to summarize the gospel…a better way is ‘Don’t be a ****”
Protestia ^ | August 31, 2023 | staff

Posted on 09/02/2023 2:56:05 AM PDT by Morgana

Revs. Abel Arroyo (he/they) & Matt Zemanick (he/they) operate the podcast Chatoic Bisexual Text Study, which exists to “discuss the Bible and our times as Bi/Pan/Queer” folks. Both are ‘pastors’ within the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) with Arroyo being the Assistant to the Bishop for Faith Formation & In-house Theologian for the Southwest California Synod, and Zemanick being the Program Director for the Lutheran Disaster Response, along with his other regular pastoral duties.

During a recent episode of their show, the two budding socialists claim that the gospel is not best summarized as “Jesus died for your sins” but rather “Don’t be a ****”

And like you were saying, like ‘Jesus died for our sins’ is not the best way to summarize the gospel. And I was just thinking, like, what would be a better way to summarize it, and I just keep thinking, ‘just don’t be a dick. Don’t be a dick, Jesus says,’ Like, period. Like, you know what I mean?

..I think it’s important to name that, right? Women, queer people, the environment, labor laws, all of those things align with the gospel. And like, in a world where God created plants and animals and all sorts of delicious things, now we’re being told oh, you need to pay $12 for a pound of chicken. You know what I mean? Like, if that doesn’t make you want to revolt…

Later, when asked what the gospel is for him, Zemanick responds:

“Oh, goodness. ‘Be a whistleblower, you’re free!’ That’s it. Or like as (unintelligible) would say, ‘Evil devours itself. Live like it.” Or like…”be free, people resent you, but you’re free.”

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TOPICS: Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: apostates; church
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Riiiiiiight.
1 posted on 09/02/2023 2:56:05 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
The constant attack on Christianity by the Left is obviously meant to undermine the foundation of Western Civilization. They claim that it is anti-science , but it was Christian Civilization that gave birth to the Scientific revolution and the industrial revolution that soon followed.

The Soviet Union tried to do science without God. It did not work out well.

2 posted on 09/02/2023 3:05:44 AM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second..)
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To: Morgana

They use like a lot. Sort of like a teenage girl.


3 posted on 09/02/2023 3:17:31 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

Or like...a beatnik, man!


4 posted on 09/02/2023 3:24:55 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Morgana

The apostle Paul wrote to kick people out of church if they encourage sexual immorality.


5 posted on 09/02/2023 3:48:22 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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“Riiiiiiight.”

When I was young .... I had questions about hell ..
I had a hard time understanding the concept
but as I have grown older ... and I have seen more ..
and have watched the depravity of man , and the evil in his heart.... well ....
I get it now.


6 posted on 09/02/2023 3:58:54 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: Morgana

Christianity is not a religion of actions. It is a religion of intent.


7 posted on 09/02/2023 4:04:28 AM PDT by nagant
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To: Morgana

ELCA is happy to follow TEC on the road to oblivion. Both organizations will be unrecognizable, if they exist at all, within most our lifetimes.


8 posted on 09/02/2023 4:05:58 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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“Don’t be a D***”

Which is kinda ironic, because they both really love D***, and have built their whole existence around using them in ways that the bible frowns upon.

9 posted on 09/02/2023 4:21:22 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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I belong to an ELCA church and am sick to see what these losers have done to my church


10 posted on 09/02/2023 4:41:31 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: Morgana

“Both are ‘homo pastors’ within the Evangelical Lutheran Church”

Fixed it. And I would not have your kids anywhere near a youth group affiliated with them.


11 posted on 09/02/2023 4:49:09 AM PDT by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: nagant

That’s right.


12 posted on 09/02/2023 5:04:40 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: LegendHasIt

They need milestones placed on their necks so we can toss them into the sea 🌊.


13 posted on 09/02/2023 5:05:26 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Tell It Right

That’s correct, they are Christian in name only.


14 posted on 09/02/2023 5:05:55 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: dynachrome

They’re fortunate enough not to be thrown off a tall building like in the Middle East.


15 posted on 09/02/2023 5:11:20 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: southernindymom

There’s always the LCMS


16 posted on 09/02/2023 5:16:00 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Morgana

Something about turning from sound doctrine and listening to whatever tickles their ears, is popping up in my head.
Just come on. Does anyone actually read their Bibles anymore?


17 posted on 09/02/2023 5:18:48 AM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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To: Morgana

And Catholics get accused of Mariolatry. (I’m sorry; I’ll leave now.)


18 posted on 09/02/2023 5:42:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Morgana

So- he rejects christ saving man and espouses man saving hi self I stead obviously.

The message of the good news is that christ died for our sins! It is not “be nice and you can save yourself”


19 posted on 09/02/2023 6:01:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Morgana

A terrible fate awaits false prophets.


20 posted on 09/02/2023 6:21:02 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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