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'A Terrifying Precedent': Calvary Chapel Sues CA County for Tracking Attendance of Churchgoers (Geofencing)
CBN ^ | 24 Aug 23 | Steve Warren

Posted on 08/24/2023 12:48:43 PM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 08/24/2023 12:48:43 PM PDT by xzins
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***In the lawsuit, Calvary alleges, "This type of expansive geofencing operation is not only an invasion of privacy but represents a terrifying precedent if allowed to go unaddressed. As it stands, Defendants assert that, as long as they call it research, any level of government can target and spy on any individual or group at any time for any duration. The government can then wield any collected data against said individuals or groups who oppose their orders."***
2 posted on 08/24/2023 12:49:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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The time for lawsuits is just about over.

L


3 posted on 08/24/2023 12:51:39 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: xzins

The left has scheduled Christians for elimination. This is one step on the way.


4 posted on 08/24/2023 12:52:26 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If genitals don't define gender, how does removing them affirm it? )
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To: xzins

Orwell…


5 posted on 08/24/2023 12:53:34 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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To: Lurker

there is NO religous freedom.
there is NO freedom of speach
There is NO Right to assemble.

If the Gov says so.. or ‘Cuz Covid.

You can have these “rights” when and for as long as we say it’s ok. Then you just can’t.


6 posted on 08/24/2023 12:54:45 PM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: xzins

I keep my phone on a VPN. It looks like I’m on the other side of the country.


7 posted on 08/24/2023 12:56:07 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Lurker

When another 100MM of us agree with you and me, we might have something...


8 posted on 08/24/2023 12:59:55 PM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: I want the USA back

It makes an end-time persecution scenario plausible and foreseeable. Not that we hadn’t already been warned by Jesus, John, and the other prophets.


9 posted on 08/24/2023 1:00:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

Cell phones are the new “pacifiers” for the masses...


10 posted on 08/24/2023 1:01:20 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: gitmo

How does a VPN work? Cost?


11 posted on 08/24/2023 1:03:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: uranium penguin

Thoughtful post.


12 posted on 08/24/2023 1:04:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

Don’t take your cell phones to church?


13 posted on 08/24/2023 1:06:00 PM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Oh, and, "Let's Go Brandon!")
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To: xzins

Last April, a county judge ordered the church to pay $1.2 million in fines for the period from November 2020 to June 2021 when the church was not following the county’s mask policy, according to Mercury News.

Makes one wonder how many other California Churches & across America got fined with this B$/Totally non scientific B$?


14 posted on 08/24/2023 1:09:39 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Asylum Seekers go to empty college dorms/class rooms in NY/NJ/Mass/West Point & NE blue citiesl)
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I’m guessing a lot. Only large churches are able to handle the legal expense, so churches like ours met in an alternative location.


15 posted on 08/24/2023 1:12:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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“Don’t take your cell phones to church?”

Yes..

But, missing the point.

If they don’t do this the “easy” way. They will just station somebody to sit out side, take pics of every person going in/ coming. ID them through facial recognition.

Or possibly send in uniformed LEOs to break up a “banned” event.

And then, fine/ penalize the churches, church goers etc.

Either way, The RIGHTs to Worship, Speak and Assemble are being limited, infringed, curtailed, intimidated by the STATE.

Any RIGHT that you need to get permission for is NOT a RIGHT.


16 posted on 08/24/2023 1:13:18 PM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: Fish Speaker

Most in our church turn them off or leave them in the cars so they’re not a distraction.


17 posted on 08/24/2023 1:14:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

VPN stands for “Virtual Private Network”. It’s often described as a tunnel that your data flows through. What it really does is it encrypts your information and omits anything in the encrypted packages that identifies your IP address. That way, if anyone somehow decrypted the data, they still wouldn’t know where it came from. The VPN provider knows who you are, but it’s not in the data flowing out.

Your data flows through a server somewhere (mine is in Bolivia) and then goes to the destination you sent it. So the FR server thinks this information is coming from Bolivia.

Prices range from $75 to $150 a year. ExpressVPN is about $100 a year.

Note: if you turn on location services on your phone, then your location is transmitted outside the VPN.


18 posted on 08/24/2023 1:16:13 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Fish Speaker

The geographer would also pr9bably track the GPS in the car.


19 posted on 08/24/2023 1:17:14 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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New stuff to me. Is it bought from alternative companies, or would Verizon or some other regular carrier sell it?


20 posted on 08/24/2023 1:17:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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